🔔 Join us on Social Media News Live for an enlightening session with Laura Davidson from Shure!

Dive into the world of audio excellence as we explore “Sound Advice: Enhancing Audio in Live Streams & Presentations.” With over 20 years in the music industry, Laura’s insights are invaluable.

We’ll delve into her journey from a singer/songwriter to leading retail market development at Shure. Discover the secrets behind choosing the right audio equipment and get practical tips for perfecting your sound in live streams and presentations.

Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from Laura’s vast experience and enrich your audio knowledge! 🚀

 

Sound Advice: Enhancing Audio in Live Streams & Presentations

Introduction to Superior Audio in Live Streaming

In the fast-evolving digital landscape, exceptional audio quality in live streaming and presentations has become imperative. It’s no longer a luxury but a critical component of effective communication and audience engagement. Achieving top-notch audio transcends mere equipment selection; it requires a deep understanding of sound dynamics and technological interaction. This comprehensive guide offers expert strategies and insights into enhancing audio quality, a vital resource for content creators, podcasters, and live streamers keen on mastering their audio performance.

Choosing the Right Microphone for Live Streaming

Selecting the right microphone is the cornerstone of superior audio quality. Dynamic microphones, celebrated for their ability to directly capture sound and minimize background noise, are the go-to choice in varied live streaming environments. Laura Davidson from Shure introduces the SM7DB microphone, a game-changer with its built-in booster, adaptable to various interfaces without needing extra gain. This innovation is particularly beneficial for live streaming, known for its diverse and often challenging acoustic settings. Understanding microphone types, their directional patterns, and suitability for different environments is crucial for every live streamer and presenter.

Monitoring and Adjusting Audio Settings in Real-Time

Real-time audio monitoring during live streams and presentations is crucial for maintaining audio quality. It empowers presenters to adjust their distance from the microphone, manage sound levels, and identify issues such as plosives – harsh bursts of sound that can mar audio clarity. Monitoring ensures a consistent and professional audio output. High-quality microphones like the Shure MV7, equipped with headphone outputs, are designed for such monitoring, exemplifying the importance of choosing equipment that supports real-time audio management.

Overcoming Common Audio Challenges

Echo and background noise are common but solvable challenges in live streaming and presentations. Addressing these issues effectively combines technique and technology. Optimal microphone positioning, utilizing dynamic microphones, and integrating sound-absorbing materials in the recording environment can dramatically reduce unwanted noise. Furthermore, choosing the right microphone for specific needs – from mobile interviews to podcasting – is critical for achieving optimal audio quality.

Leveraging Technology for Audio Enhancement

The advancement in technology has introduced versatile microphones suitable for various content creation scenarios. The MV88 Plus microphone, for example, offers flexibility in sound capture through adjustable polar patterns via an app, a feature invaluable for creators who engage in diverse types of content production. This adaptability underscores the importance of staying abreast with technological innovations that can significantly enhance audio quality in various content creation settings.

Final Note: The Importance of Audio Quality in Content Creation

In conclusion, achieving exceptional audio quality in live streams and presentations is a blend of choosing the right equipment, understanding sound dynamics, and effectively utilizing technology. Whether it’s through versatile microphones like the MV7 for various applications or employing lavaliers for on-the-go recording, understanding and addressing your specific audio needs is key. As the realm of content creation continues to evolve, the emphasis on audio quality remains paramount in delivering impactful and engaging content.

SHOW TRANSCRIPT

This transcript is automatically generated by Descript.  Any errors or omissions are unintentional.

[00:00:00] Jeff Sieh: Hello folks, welcome to another edition of Social Media News Live. I am so excited you’re here. We had a little bit of tech issues at the beginning, but we are all here. this is going to be so much fun. So, as we’re going along today, make sure you ask your questions. We’re talking about all about audio today for live video and presentations.

[00:00:19] Any questions you may have about… Tech or how to set stuff up or any of those things. We have an expert here today. Laura is going to be talking with us and I I’m just excited because one, if you can tell, I have a new microphone that she just sent me that just came in yesterday and I think it rocks.

[00:00:35] So it is the, the SM7DB, their brand new mic. So, I, I was, I was geeking out with it last night and we’re going to go live on, Amazon as well as soon as the, the, the stream goes there and we’ll be, if you want to purchase this, well you can just click down there at jeffsieh. live and you can go there and you can buy it and, that would help me out.

[00:00:55] But, how are you guys doing today before we start the show?

[00:00:59] Katie Fawkes: Awesome!

[00:01:00] Laura Davidson: It’s Friday.

[00:01:01] Katie Fawkes: It’s Friday!

[00:01:02] Jeff Sieh: true.

[00:01:03] Laura Davidson: do this.

[00:01:03] Jeff Sieh: All right, so I’m going to hit go on the podcast machine and we will get started. Everybody ready? All right, here we go. Hello, folks. Welcome to Social Media News Live. I’m Jeff Sieh, and you’re not.

[00:01:15] Katie Fawkes: And this is the show that keeps you up to date on what’s happening in the world of social media and more.

[00:01:20] Jeff Sieh: Have you ever wondered about the secret ingredients to achieving top notch audio quality in your live streams and presentations? Maybe you’re curious about the expert strategies behind exceptional audio experiences, or perhaps you’re aiming to upgrade your audio skills to a professional level. If these questions Resonate with you, then you are in for a treat today.

[00:01:41] Today, we’re excited to welcome special guest, Laura Davison from Shure, a master in the world of audio. Laura combines her musical prowess with technical know how to enhance audio in live settings. She’ll be sharing her background, offering valuable insights and providing essential, essential tips for audio mastery.

[00:01:59] So sit back, clear schedule, clear your mind and get ready for this week’s episode of Social Media News Live. Laura, how are you doing today?

[00:02:07] Laura Davidson: Doing great, Jeff. Thank you for having

[00:02:09] Jeff Sieh: This is going to be awesome. I am so excited. I’ve been counting down the days to have you on the show. We met at Ecamm’s creator camp. you had some really cool stuff to say, some really cool tech stuff, and we’re going to share some of that stuff out today.

[00:02:22] And also joining me today is the amazing Katie Fox from Ecamm. Katie, how are you?

[00:02:28] Katie Fawkes: I’m great. It’s as Laura said, it’s Friday and

[00:02:31] Laura Davidson: I know. Let’s go.

[00:02:34] Jeff Sieh: it. Like it’s it’s like the Katie show. She was on with Ian earlier talking about stuff. It’s like it’s Katie all day all the

[00:02:40] Laura Davidson: You’re everywhere, Katie.

[00:02:41] Katie Fawkes: I, I am a notorious over committer, so here I am. I’m saying yes to all the things. No, no, in a good way today, because it’s all the fun stuff,

[00:02:50] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, it’s it’s fun to get on on live with your friends. So, let me introduce you to Laura Capps clap because if you Davidson because if you don’t know who she is Let me tell you she heads up the retail marketing development team for sure her passion her knowledge of 20 years in the music industry, where she has been recognized for her achievements with She Rocks Award and Women of NAMM Leadership Summit Scholarship.

[00:03:14] When she isn’t talking about music equipment, she is using it as a professional singer, songwriter, and podcaster. And you can learn more at lauraclap. com. And check out her podcast, Song 43, wherever you consume podcasts. Laura, once again, thanks for being on the show. And by the way, your podcast is amazing.

[00:03:31] And your Spotify channel, I went and listened to some of your music. It is really, really good. I had no idea.

[00:03:37] Laura Davidson: Thank you. Thanks for checking it out. I

[00:03:40] Jeff Sieh: it was really good. Yeah. And, and, yeah, I mean your podcast, I loved it cause you were, I went back and, listen to some of the, the haunting stuff that was happening at, Creator

[00:03:50] Laura Davidson: Oh, during

[00:03:51] Jeff Sieh: Oh, yeah, so that was, that was very interesting.

[00:03:54] So, we’ve got some of our friends in the, the, the comments today. We’ve got, Neil saying, sounds good, Jeff. Thank you. Yeah, I love my new microphone. So, that’s very, very cool. Chris Stone says, Jeff Sieh has never sounded better. I don’t know what you mean by that, Chris, but we’ll, we’ll, we’ll take it.

[00:04:10] and Tacey says, happy Friday, y’all. This is always the best part of Friday. Tacey, you are the best part of Friday. Thank you so much for stopping by today. and Dealcaster says bonus points to Laura for colorware. Sure, Mike Green branding on point. Oh, I see. Yeah, well, once you, we go full screen.

[00:04:27] Yeah, so, and Katie’s even got, let me pull up you full screen, Katie. you even got a nice M7 color, MV7 color. Yeah, look

[00:04:36] Katie Fawkes: It was, it was so hard to choose. It took a very long time.

[00:04:40] Jeff Sieh: It’s very cool. So we’re gonna be, and, and we have more people just popping in who are our family here, Tech Trouble, Troublemaker says thanks Laura for the great tips at camp.

[00:04:50] I’ve been working to improve my audio. SureMB7 here. So I’ve got mine too. I’ve got mine. Set up and ready to go if we want to test it later. But this is the white special

[00:04:59] Laura Davidson: Oh, you got the white one. Amazon exclusive. Nice,

[00:05:02] Jeff Sieh: I don’t even think you can get it anymore. I don’t think they’re even available, so I feel special. So, and then we have, of course, amazing Mr.

[00:05:10] Paul, Duncan here in the house as

[00:05:13] Laura Davidson: A moderator in the house.

[00:05:16] Jeff Sieh: And Anna, I think she had some hauntings that happened as well that I heard, from, from the grapevine. So I have to get the whole, the whole scoop on all this stuff. But anyway, let’s get on with the show because we have some great, I have some great questions.

[00:05:28] I want you guys to ask your questions of Laura in here, but let’s talk about Laura kind of like your background, because I want to talk about, you know, how you kind of your journey in the music industry and. How that kind of, you know, went to audio equipment and your expertise in that.

[00:05:44] Laura Davidson: Yeah, so I went to Berkeley College of Music for school, and when I graduated, I moved to Nashville, where I lived for about seven years, and I was working as a singer songwriter. I was also working, you know, waiting tables and just trying to survive. And I started, co hosting this wonderful showcase called Chick Singer Night, which is the longest running showcase for women.

[00:06:07] in the country. It’s all over the country in different cities, and it’s basically like a free showcase for you to play with a professional band in front of an audience, what you normally wouldn’t be able to do. Like if you’re living in Nashville, it’s hard to do that. Anyway, I was doing that, and the founder of that organization, Lori Meier, Her husband was the CEO of a company called TC Electronic at the time.

[00:06:32] They wanted to have a female demonstrator at the NAMM show, which if you’re not familiar, NAMM happens usually every January. It’s getting back on that cycle now, finally, post pandemic, out in Anaheim. And it’s the largest gathering of music equipment manufacturers in the world, basically. Like a hundred thousand people show up and we show off our new gear.

[00:06:52] We have booths and it’s just like a big family reunion, kind of like Ecamm fam times. You know, a lot. And, so I started demonstrating there. And I had about two weeks to learn this really wildly complicated piece of gear called the Voice Live, which would let you plug a microphone in and start singing and four voices of harmony would come out.

[00:07:14] And it was the coolest thing I’d ever heard. And I was like, this is, like, I love this. I love this gear. And I loved demonstrating. Because I would be on a booth demonstrating 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off for four days, which was exhausting and exhilarating and incredible. And it just, it turned out I was pretty good at demonstrating gear and getting across these wildly complicated, tech gear pieces to anybody.

[00:07:44] So I started doing that and then kind of worked my way up the chain in terms of getting into the marketing side, worked for them for about 10 years. I’ve worked for a marketing agency for two years and I’ve been with Shure for six years this month. So, I do market development for them, which is essentially going out into the field, training people about our incredible products like this MV7 and just helping people find ways to make their creative lives and journeys easier.

[00:08:12] Like hanging out at Creator Camp. That was one of the things I got to do as part of my job. So. That’s kind of me in a nutshell. And I’m a singer songwriter and a mom of two, you know,

[00:08:21] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. You got a little

[00:08:22] Laura Davidson: among other things, you know,

[00:08:24] Jeff Sieh: A little bit.

[00:08:24] Laura Davidson: that’s that.

[00:08:26] Jeff Sieh: Katie, you, you jump in here cause you know, we, we didn’t get to talk much before the show because we were having tech stuff. So you just, cause I will like hog all the time. So you have to like

[00:08:35] Katie Fawkes: Back off, Jeff. Laura’s my friend.

[00:08:37] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. Connor knows that, that I do that. So I know I’m just going to sit here quietly. Go

[00:08:41] Katie Fawkes: Well, I’m going to steal all of Jeff’s awesome questions that he planned in advance, but I actually really want to know this one as well. But Laura, how do your experiences as a performer help you understand audio needs for your live stream and presentations?

[00:08:55] Laura Davidson: Oh, that’s a fun one. they, being a performer, And being a presenter are actually very similar things, but the tech side of it is something that I think as vocalists, we get to be lazy about. And it’s something that I’m desperately trying to change and I’m super passionate about because most of the time, if you show up to a venue, You’re going to perform.

[00:09:23] You step up to the microphone, whatever’s there, you do your sound check and you go. Whereas if you were the guitarist on said gig or the drummer, you would bring all of your own equipment that you know and have tested and tried at home and love and know makes you sound great, is easy to play and removes any barriers.

[00:09:44] We don’t, we don’t have that luxury as singers. We just kind of show up and use whatever. So I started getting passionate about gear in 2006 when I started demonstrating. And then that really has led to more of an awareness of how to choose gear based on just listening. Like I’m monitoring right now, which I cannot say how important it is to do.

[00:10:06] To hear yourself talking to know if I’m too far off the mic that I need to get closer, you know, things like that. So I don’t know if that answers the question, but it’s basically as a performer, I’m comfortable with microphone technique. And and then that kind of led the segue into learning about the gear and how it actually all works.

[00:10:26] If that answers it.

[00:10:27] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. And I want to, I want to jump back into that in the next section, but I wanted to talk one more thing. I’m going to jump down kind of to the end of this section because You mentioned before that, you know, you, you know, you’re a professional singer songwriter, you also work full time for sure. And you’re also a mom of two.

[00:10:44] And I know a lot of us, especially the creatives, how do you balance those two roles? Like you’ve got your professional hat on, for your, you know, for your artists. stuff. And you’ve got to, I mean, I like, I mean, I love, I mean, I love to play the piano and do other stuff. And, you know, I love that too, but it’s like, okay, how do I fit that in?

[00:11:02] Like, if I do this, then how am I going to create a course? Or like, I mean, and I think all of us and all of our audience watching has that struggle. So I’m really interested in how you balance those two things, your job at Shure and your like professional singing. Right.

[00:11:18] Laura Davidson: very well at all. case in point, last night I sang a gig in Fairfield, Connecticut, which is about 40, 45 minutes away from me. On a Thursday night from 8. 30 to 11. 30, two out of five stars do not recommend. Like I, you know, I’m dragging today, but like that’s, I have to feed that creative side of myself or I’m, I get very cranky.

[00:11:42] So what I’ve found is that having my podcast every week, is the one thing I have not let myself skimp out on or drop. I’ve missed like, I want to say four episodes out of 72 consecutive or 73 weeks. So that’s the thing. It’s not necessarily me making music, which is what I would love to do with my free time, but I know that every Tuesday night.

[00:12:09] I have my time to record, edit, and publish my podcast, but it’s a short podcast. It’s like 10 to 15 minutes. that’s, that’s the one thing I hold on to when I’m getting really kind of like, Oh, I need to create more. I know that I have that to go to because I could lie and say, Oh, well, I schedule out my time.

[00:12:27] So I have me time for it to create. No, that does not happen because you do that. And inevitably You’re taking your kid to the ER like we got to do last night, which was good times.

[00:12:37] Jeff Sieh: No.

[00:12:38] Laura Davidson: She’s fine. She’s fine. Ah,

[00:12:41] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. I mean, and I think what you just said about the consistency is super important because like even, I mean, you did it when you were traveling, at the crater camp cause that I heard that episode and you were sitting there recording in a haunted hotel. I mean, come on, that is commitment. Like,

[00:12:56] Laura Davidson: Yeah.

[00:12:57] Jeff Sieh: so

[00:12:58] Katie Fawkes: Well, you’ve set yourself up for success with that too, which I think is also really important. Like you’ve made it. You’ve made your podcast, the format of it, work for you, understanding that you, you know, you are constantly on the go and you’re doing things with work and family and you’re, you know, you have gigs on different nights.

[00:13:16] So it’s, I think that’s really important for everyone to hear as well, that it’s not like everyone listening who’s used to Ecamm shows, which are like always an hour, an hour and a half, like three hours long. It’s like Laura, right? Like Laura, you’ve set this up where it’s. Like for you, it’s audio only, you know, you have all of the gear, you understand how it works, you can bring it with you when you’re in a hotel room at a haunted hotel.

[00:13:39] So it, I think, you know, that’s a huge win is that upfront planning, which doesn’t, probably doesn’t feel like a lot, but it makes a huge, huge difference in being able to actually Do it consistently.

[00:13:51] Laura Davidson: Yeah, it does. And I actually, I just made the shift to incorporate video into my podcast after going to Creator Camp. I mean, I’ve done it before. I think I have like four episodes on video, which. I have two YouTube channels. I don’t know how I did that to myself. So if anybody knows how to like merge them magically, please, we’ll talk later.

[00:14:11] anyway, so I, I started just. I’m sucking it up and using Descript because Descript is

[00:14:17] Katie Fawkes: Yes,

[00:14:18] Laura Davidson: incredible.

[00:14:19] Katie Fawkes: magic. Oh,

[00:14:22] Laura Davidson: it’ll be challenging when I am doing the things like when I’m in my hotel room in my PJs recording it. I don’t know that anybody needs to see that, but I recorded it in my car, my car in the parking lot of Taekwondo.

[00:14:36] That was last week’s episode,

[00:14:38] Jeff Sieh: got to put it out. Yeah.

[00:14:39] Laura Davidson: you got to put it out. And that one, I used this little guy right here, the MV88 Plus.

[00:14:45] Jeff Sieh: I got it right here ready to

[00:14:47] Laura Davidson: Yeah, it is just, it’s so awesome. And this, this is the, I don’t have my little tripod with it, but it has like a phone clamp here and a little Manfrotto Pixie tripod, which looks like, oh wait, I have it right here.

[00:15:00] Jeff Sieh: right here. Ba da,

[00:15:00] Laura Davidson: I do have it.

[00:15:02] Katie Fawkes: no, you guys, mine’s not here. It’s in the office.

[00:15:04] Jeff Sieh: have all three done it. Yeah.

[00:15:06] Laura Davidson: So like, if I don’t have this one with me, then I have this one, the MV7 because it’s just, it folds up really nice like this, you know, like it’s, it folds up. So it just goes. Yeah.

[00:15:21] Jeff Sieh: All right, so, That’s, we’re gonna get into all this because I’m, people are already nerding out in the comments. But, you know, I was so excited that Laura was here and Katie was here that I forgot to say, hey, by the way, this show is sponsored by our friends over at Ecamm.

[00:15:34] And since Katie’s here and she like is the main reason that I’m having the show, Katie, can you, is there some special things coming up? Like, you know, cause you know, it’s a holiday, so I’ll let you take the lead here.

[00:15:47] Katie Fawkes: It’s absolutely the holiday season. So if you are sitting here and you’re like, wait a second I have never heard of this Ecamm thing. Ecamm helps you record your podcast just like Jeff is doing right now. It also helps you live stream, record course videos. Literally anything that you can think up in the world of video, Ecamm can help you do and do it easily and professionally.

[00:16:07] And yeah, if you’re brand new we have a Cyber Weekend That is going to start up a week from today, Black Friday, and run through that Cyber Weekend timeframe. And if you’re an existing Ecamm fan member, like many of the people I see here in the chat, it’s a great time to be an affiliate, you all! So make sure that you get signed up as an Ecamm affiliate so that you can help us spread the word.

[00:16:28] and yeah, I, it’s, it’s just an awesome, exciting time. This is like the holiday season.

[00:16:33] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. And so, and, and if you want to like understand affiliate marketing better, she just did a great. video with Ian about affiliate marketing, so go back to the Ecamm’s channels, YouTube, wherever, and, and watch that because it’s really, really good. Ian does a really great job with affiliate marketing.

[00:16:48] So, by the way, I wanted to also do a welcome because we are now broadcasting everywhere over on Agora Pulse’s channels. They,

[00:16:55] Katie Fawkes: Ooh,

[00:16:55] Jeff Sieh: asked to do that. So we, if you guys were watching over on Agora Pulse inside their groups and also on their page and their LinkedIn, thank you guys for watching. We appreciate you.

[00:17:03] Make sure you ask your questions. And by the way, we do have some, great questions here. Tech Troublemaker says, kids wait, aren’t we supposed to raise kids over live streaming, podcasting? No, you’re not. Get your priorities right. you know, and then, Jim Fuse says, or should I say, sure sounds good today.

[00:17:22] Laura Davidson: Oh boy.

[00:17:24] Jim, really?

[00:17:25] Katie Fawkes: get old for me. I enjoy it. I’m here for it,

[00:17:30] Jeff Sieh: That’s right. and

[00:17:32] Laura Davidson: hear them anymore.

[00:17:33] Jeff Sieh: It’s either Jim or Chris at my, who knows, over on Dealcasters. I love that Laura went right into mic technique. So, totally important for live streaming and podcasting. The Sure Creators YouTube channel is so helpful and not just about their great mics. So, before we get into mics, because you know, everyone wants to talk about mics and stuff, but you had kind of alluded to something very, very, at the very beginning of the show, talking about monitoring.

[00:17:54] You know, and a lot of people, and we, I like, since we’re on video, not to have the big old Mickey Mouse ears when we’re doing it, and I love, these are the Shure, 215s, I think that they are, and so, yeah, so I really like, these are the Pro ones, and they’re actually on sale right now on Amazon, if you’re

[00:18:11] Laura Davidson: are,

[00:18:11] Jeff Sieh: the way,

[00:18:12] Laura Davidson: was just gonna say.

[00:18:13] Jeff Sieh: but they, you can’t, most people can’t even tell that I’m, I’m using them, unless I really turn, you know, to the side, and so, and I, Gloria, you had some on as well, I really, love these, these, little monitoring, but let’s talk about monitoring.

[00:18:26] So why, why monitor your, your podcast or

[00:18:30] Laura Davidson: to. You have to monitor whether you’re performing or whether you’re podcasting or you’re live streaming, because like I alluded to, microphones. I said this in my presentation, they’re very cute and beautiful, but they’re dumb. Like they don’t reach out and grab your sound. So, you know, you want to work with your mic and you’re not going to know if you’re having plosives, which is that sound, which I can’t even get mine to do.

[00:18:54] Love you. I love you. but. It’s when you have a pop of air that, that pops the diaphragm and it has that uncomfortable popping sound. You just turn off access and you’ll notice it if you’re monitoring, if you’re hearing like, what the, what are all those consonants that are popping in my ears? Just, you know, you’ll adjust naturally.

[00:19:11] Or again, if you’re too far away, Dynamic microphones like this get really thin the further away you get, especially if they’re in a cardioid pickup pattern. Cardioid being heart shaped, meaning it’s going to pick up what’s right in front of it and not what’s coming in from the back. You have to be up on it.

[00:19:28] And there’s ways to fudge it. Like I could be over here, but. Why? You know, like, I like to have that nice podcast voice. anyway, that’s why it’s important. And you want to make sure you’re hearing your guests, that you’re not screaming louder than they are, or that they’re not too quiet. which is what’s cool about MB7.

[00:19:47] I’m monitoring through my MB7 right now, so I’m plugged in directly to the back, so I can hear myself. And I can hear you guys all through the mic.

[00:19:56] Jeff Sieh: And so can you talk about the quality of the headphones and why not just to use? Talk about why, I’m leading you with the question, not to use Bluetooth headphones. Like when you’re doing, like a lot of people I see putting the, you know, the AirPods in and stuff like that. And if you’ve done it once and they break out.

[00:20:15] Then you mean you’ll never do it again, but go ahead.

[00:20:18] Laura Davidson: No. Because the, the thing about Bluetooth is it has inherent latency. And so if you’re trying to monitor with it, as opposed to just listening to music on your computer, there will be latency introduced, meaning you’ll hear yourself behind. When you’re actually speaking or your guests will be delayed and that’s just inherent to the technology.

[00:20:39] So that’s why we recommend using wired earphones or headphones. We call these earphones and we have a whole line and we have some really amazing promos going on right now for the holiday season. So if you go, I’m gonna put this in. Can I put that in the chat? I don’t

[00:20:56] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, but we’re everywhere. So it might be hard to do

[00:20:59] Laura Davidson: Oh, okay. Well, if you go to shore.

[00:21:01] com slash special dash offers, then you’ll see everything that’s on sale, but the earphones and headphones are all on sale pretty much. And what’s great about ours is that they have these little sleeves on them that let you have something called, sound isolation. So they’re not noise canceling, but they essentially conform to your ear.

[00:21:24] So you squeeze the little sleeve down. These are the Aonic 5s right now. Mine are super dirty right now, so we won’t get too close with that. and then

[00:21:33] Jeff Sieh: You can’t see that

[00:21:33] Laura Davidson: you, yeah, you don’t look at that. So you, you squeeze it and then seat it in your ear and wrap it around, and then it gradually expands. So it’s blocking out extraneous noise.

[00:21:43] So it’s really great on flights and it’s not noise canceling. It’s not introducing any sort of frequency cancellation there. It’s just naturally working with acoustics and you’re, so that’s why it’s important to monitor with WIRED.

[00:21:56] Jeff Sieh: thing I would So so like this is going down my back like if you can see it there and so what I like to do is because mine’s plugged into my Roadcaster is, I have, an extension. I just got an extension cheap cable from Amazon Basics that I plug it in, and so I have this, and I’m always rolling over it in my, my carpet, but, but, being plugged in is super important.

[00:22:16] That’s like a, a pro tip, like, do that, like, right away if you’re using AirPods because it just works so much better.

[00:22:22] Laura Davidson: Yeah. Until Bluetooth catches up and we don’t have any latency, use, use

[00:22:28] Jeff Sieh: Chris goes, Audio Nerds Unite! Monitoring plosives in proximity. Woo hoo! So, yes,

[00:22:34] Laura Davidson: Yes. Proximity. That’s another thing too. proximity effect is when you get up on a dynamic microphone and you talk like this, it builds up low frequencies and you can hear my voice getting woofier as I talk. So that’s why you want to keep that nice little like two, three fingers off, off your mic.

[00:22:53] Jeff Sieh: and this is a, from Kira, who’s an awesome editor. And so all these editors are going, yeah, to preach it. And she goes, also monitoring during recording makes editing so much easier because you don’t have to try to fix issues after the fact. Yes.

[00:23:07] Laura Davidson: So much easier.

[00:23:09] Jeff Sieh: Katie, did you have a question? I’m once again,

[00:23:10] Katie Fawkes: I do, I do, Jeff. Thank you for checking in with me. Laura, can you give us an overview of the latest advancements in microphone and headphone technology for live streaming?

[00:23:21] Laura Davidson: Yeah, absolutely. So what Jeff is speaking into right now is the SM7 DB, which is the latest and greatest microphone that we’ve made. Strangely enough, on a 50 year old mic, we took the SM7 B, which many of you are familiar with, which I usually have within arm’s reach. Oh, here it is. and fantastic microphone broadcast industry standard go to mic.

[00:23:45] but one of the things that People don’t always enjoy is that you need extra gain. Or you need an interface that has enough gain or headroom to drive this mic because it’s just that’s how it was built. It has these beautiful humbucker coils built in, so it’s going to block RF noise from different devices.

[00:24:03] When this was made in 73, cell phones weren’t a thing, but there were other pieces of equipment that would cause a buzz, so that’s why it has that humbucker coil in there, which is kind of fun. and it has these switches where you can adjust the frequency response, but you have to kind of get a tool to do that, like a pen or. A tool, a pen, you know, something that’ll get in there. It’s very official. So we made the SM7DB, which is the exact same microphone. It has now a built in. Booster, and it is brilliant. So now you don’t need to have the right interface. You know that no matter what you plug it into, and it is XLR, not USB, you can have that go directly into whatever you’re using and engage the preamp because it has an onboard preamp and you could get plus 18 or plus 28 dB.

[00:24:52] So if you’re not getting quite enough juice, you have a little more headroom. But if you decide you want to bypass it and go straight into SM7B mode, you can do that as well. And, you know, I’ve seen online people saying, Oh, why would they do that? It’s different and it’s bigger and it’s tapered and all these things.

[00:25:09] No, it’s not. It has, it’s one centimeter bigger. Because it has to, you know, accommodate a preamp, it’s black and it has a Shure logo here that’s black. I should have this in front of me, but it’s in a Pelican case right over there. Yes. Thank you, Jeff. So can you spot the logo, Katie?

[00:25:31] Katie Fawkes: I can, but I’m really looking for it. So it’s very hidden.

[00:25:36] Laura Davidson: Yeah. So people are, you know, getting a little cranky about that. Yeah, we put the logo on there. It’s, it’s advertising, but you know, it’s not like, it’s not like my ignition green one here that’s like, sure! So, you know. That was the change, but it’s a pleasant change because now Jeff doesn’t have to add any other things to his setup.

[00:25:55] He can plug directly in and have enough gain to power his SM7B.

[00:25:59] Jeff Sieh: And I love it.

[00:26:01] Katie Fawkes: for sure.

[00:26:01] Jeff Sieh: I love it. And so, so, Rainy Cajun, which is a great name, by the way, he goes, Jeff, how far is the SM7DB from my mouth? I don’t, I don’t have a, that’s like a measuring thing here, but I’ll go once again full screen and you can see it’s about this far. You know, from my mouth. Yeah, something like that.

[00:26:19] And so I’m still playing with it. Like, I don’t know if I have it completely dialed in. I like, I got it yesterday, like, cause Laura

[00:26:25] Laura Davidson: It sounds

[00:26:25] Jeff Sieh: by the way. So, and I liked the sound of it and I am, I didn’t go all the way. I think I’m in what’s the eight, is it 18 DB plus? I think I have that one on. I didn’t go all the way.

[00:26:35] I didn’t think I needed to. So, Anyway, I think it sounds pretty darn good.

[00:26:40] Katie Fawkes: It sounds

[00:26:41] Laura Davidson: I think so too. And then right before we launched the SM7DB, we launched the MVX2U, which I saw either Chris or Jim throw in the chat there. And that is this guy, again, very subtle logo that I’m trying to get to show up. this is a single channel interface. So when you use this and you can use this with a regular SM7B or your SM7DB, but it’s a USB interface and it has that headphone.

[00:27:08] Out right there so that you can monitor and this can plug directly into my SM7P like that. I have hair on it. And go inline directly on a boom arm. And so you can run there. There’s also an extender you can use or you can run a little short XLR cable to this if you want this kind of like on your desk, which is how I do it.

[00:27:34] So it’s a great setup. This is a single interface. You bring this, you’re good to go. I just, I like my MV7 and my 88 so I haven’t upgraded.

[00:27:42] Jeff Sieh: it’s a, I mean, it’s a great, I have it here too, because I didn’t know who was going to have one. But, like, that’s what Katie’s using. they’re really great. And by the way, once again, go to jeffsieh. live. They’re all there in the carousel. You can just

[00:27:53] Laura Davidson: That’s

[00:27:54] Jeff Sieh: And there’s also, you know, she talked about the interface.

[00:27:56] There is a kit with, I think, the SM7DB and that interface. You can buy them together. I believe I saw that on the Shure website. So, if you don’t have an interface and you need one, there you go. Great Christmas present for yourself. Treat yourself. That’s what I’m

[00:28:09] Laura Davidson: Treat yourself. I always say that. Everybody, I’ve, I’ve talked with so many creators where they’re just like, Oh, I don’t know if I’m ready to, to upgrade my setup or, you know, and I wish Doc were here to just be like, you know, buy it

[00:28:22] Katie Fawkes: Do it.

[00:28:22] Laura Davidson: you know, because number one, it’s not that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

[00:28:28] I’m not saying that a 500 mic is inexpensive, but what I’m saying is in the grand scheme of things, if you’re ready to do this, or if you’ve been doing it for a minute, you’re Make the jump or even go for an MV7. It’s, it’s 249. It plugs in USB and XLR. So you have options for it to grow with you. And you know, you’re, you’re worth it.

[00:28:49] Otherwise you’re going to struggle with the tech. You’re going to fight with the tech. You’d be like, why don’t I sound as good as insert favorite podcaster there? You know, like just. Just go for it. Just invest in it. That’s how I always justify it. I’m like, what, what is this equivalent to, this gear equivalent to in meals?

[00:29:05] Because I really like to go out to eat. And so I’m like, is this like two steak dinners or like, you know, so

[00:29:13] Jeff Sieh: Or McDonald’s. Yeah. So,

[00:29:14] Katie Fawkes: Yeah.

[00:29:15] Laura Davidson: it McDonald’s? Don’t buy

[00:29:17] Jeff Sieh: you’ll be sick. so, but, so, the deal casters are saying we usually tell people for distance between the mouth and mic is about the length of your fist and speak across it, not into the front of it. Totally nerding out right now. I know you guys over at Dealcasters are.

[00:29:31] I wanted to ask this and you guys let me know in the comments or, if you’re watching the replay, you know, go ahead and leave them in as well. and this is what I believe. I think you should, if you’re on the upgrade path, you’ve been doing this for a while, you got some consistency, you know that you want to be a podcaster or a live streamer, the first thing you should upgrade is your audio.

[00:29:49] True or false, what would you say? Katie, I’ll start with you.

[00:29:52] Laura Davidson: Oh,

[00:29:53] Katie Fawkes: Oh my goodness. I, yes. I mean, I would say that not even just for upgrading that, that should be your, like, I want to. Start a podcast, start a live stream, get into video, be better with creating, you know, short videos. Audio first! Like, you can do a lot with decent lighting to make older cameras or your phone work for the video picture quality, but, bad audio is, that, that’s forever.

[00:30:17] In a real bad way.

[00:30:18] Jeff Sieh: That’s right. So I know you’re a little biased, Laura, but what are your thoughts on this?

[00:30:24] Laura Davidson: Yeah. I mean, absolutely. There’ve been studies that show it again and again, like your people are going to bounce if the audio is subpar. And so things to take into consideration when we’re talking about good audio, not even, let’s say you have a mic that you already own and you’re not quite happy with the sound.

[00:30:41] You can still do things to make it sound better. Number one, you can get closer to the mic. The closer you get, the less of the room that’s going to get into it. Because again, They’re beautiful, dumb creatures that only reach out and hear what’s right in front of them. So by eliminating other things coming into the mic, you make it that much better.

[00:31:01] And then you can also treat your space by adding absorptive materials. So I don’t even have to though, in this space, I’m in a, you know, this is painted drywall, angular walls. That’s a window over there. I have a nice sound dampening, shade, and light dampening, but I have hardwood floors and there’s a giant window right over there.

[00:31:22] And I. All I’m doing is talking into my mp7, but if you have a particularly bouncy live room that you’re hearing a lot of echo when you clap your hands, get close to the mic. Use absorptive materials like area rugs, pillows, canvas, you can make your own canvases like we talked about at Creator Camp,

[00:31:42] Jeff Sieh: yeah. So

[00:31:43] Laura Davidson: know, and just treat the space.

[00:31:47] Jeff Sieh: this, and Chris says, this is great. Bad audio is forever. He’s stealing that. That’s complicated.

[00:31:52] Laura Davidson: That audio is forever.

[00:31:54] Jeff Sieh: I think what I’ve always heard that like, you know, people will forgive a bad video, but they won’t forgive bad audio is what I’ve

[00:32:02] Katie Fawkes: if they can’t hear, if you can’t hear someone, there’s, you’re not,

[00:32:06] Jeff Sieh: Or like a windy. Yeah. Yeah, totally agree. So, I want to do this because I know people are like, you know, okay, 500 mic or should I do the, how, for beginners, what are the key features they need to look for when choosing audio equipment for live streaming and presentations like we’ve been talking about?

[00:32:25] Laura Davidson: Dynamic microphone, unless you’re in a perfectly treated space. So dynamic, not condenser, good set of headphones. And if you’re just starting, go with a USB mic. Because then you don’t have any additional gear. That’s why I love the MV7 though, because it’s USB or XLR, or you can use them at the same time, which is kind of cool.

[00:32:47] and so that way you can grow. If you decide to get an interface and you want XLR capabilities, you already have it built in. But that’s, that’s really it. A dynamic microphone that’s going to pick you up, block out more of the room, and a set of headphones and a computer. That’s required. Well, I guess you could do it on a phone, but

[00:33:04] Jeff Sieh: the old tape machine. I still have some good tapes of me like when I was a kid, like pretending I

[00:33:11] Laura Davidson: Oh, a hundred percent.

[00:33:13] Katie Fawkes: Oh yeah, totally. Yeah. Making your own radio station. That was my big thing as a kid.

[00:33:17] Jeff Sieh: Yeah.

[00:33:18] Laura Davidson: I wanted to be Christian Slater so badly.

[00:33:22] Katie Fawkes: Yeah. You and

[00:33:23] Laura Davidson: Talk hard. I mean, like pump up the volume is

[00:33:25] Katie Fawkes: Pump up the volume.

[00:33:27] Laura Davidson: It’s our movie, Katie.

[00:33:28] Katie Fawkes: It is, 100%.

[00:33:30] Jeff Sieh: All right, Katie, you’re up next. What’s your question?

[00:33:32] Katie Fawkes: Oh my goodness, I’m having too much fun that I’m not looking at the

[00:33:35] Jeff Sieh: well, while you’re looking for that, I want to talk a little quick about this. You mentioned, okay, dynamic microphone, right? Okay. But here’s the thing. This is a

[00:33:44] Laura Davidson: That is a

[00:33:44] Jeff Sieh: microphone. So why is this one so good? This is like my travel mic. Like, when I go somewhere, and like, I have to do my show in a hotel room, I can plug this right into my computer.

[00:33:53] And use this one and it’s fabulous. So how come this one is so good?

[00:34:00] Laura Davidson: because,

[00:34:01] Jeff Sieh: microphone.

[00:34:02] Laura Davidson: because you can dial it in, you know, more than you can with a normal condenser. Like it’s not a, first of all, it’s a small diaphragm condenser, not a large diaphragm condenser. and that makes it a little bit more less. Oh my gosh, words, what are they? A little bit less surface area to contend with, and the thing that we haven’t really touched on yet with the MV88 which I’m riding the struggle bus to put it together whilst talking to all of you, is that you power it with your phone, and you control it with your phone, and you can change the polar pattern with the app.

[00:34:37] So that’s why it’s so great. In terms of being able to control it and use it and have it not be as prone to noise is because I can go in here. Okay. It’s loading. I can go in here and I can select how I want the microphone to pick up. So put it in. Cardioid mode that lets me actually dial it in and be much more directional as opposed to stereo mode, which would activate both of the capsules, because this is a stereo condenser mic.

[00:35:11] It’s one of only two in the Shure product line, which I think is fascinating. So you could see that I have my left and my right. Capsules there. And when that’s cool though, is when you’re out in the field and you put it into this one, the figure eight or mono bi directional, because then you just set it up on the table and put it in between you and your interview subject.

[00:35:34] And it’s going to capture you beautifully equally without having to do this back and forth, you know, man on the street kind of action. So that’s why, because you can disable some of the capsules and put it into monocardioid mode. You have a more focused sound.

[00:35:51] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. So that somebody asked, is that your travel mic? Yeah. That’s my travel mic because, because of the reasons. like if you’re at a conference or something, it’s so versatile. Like she said, you can put it in and do interviews. You can go out and just capture audio in the, you know, in the, in the room.

[00:36:06] You can like interview people while you ask questions. You just want to pick up them. You can turn it back towards you and have like vlogging mode. I mean, this thing is, is for portability and travel. This is my go to and I think it is. Stinking amazing because of all that stuff that you can do with it.

[00:36:22] Laura Davidson: It is.

[00:36:23] Jeff Sieh: it turned into, I didn’t mean it to be, anyway, that’s my travel mic. and so Paul is saying I need to bite the bullet and get the MV88.

[00:36:29] Katie Fawkes: Do it, Paul.

[00:36:30] Laura Davidson: Oh, Paul. Yes.

[00:36:32] Jeff Sieh: and Kira says, love me some portable tiny tech. Yes, it is. It is really cool. Like I, Kira and I were at Momentum conference, and that’s what I had when I was doing some stuff out in about, so, yeah, Kira, it’s really, really cool.

[00:36:45] all right. Sorry. I nerd out on that thing all the time.

[00:36:48] Katie Fawkes: this rolls us into then our next question on the, on talking through the different, the different kinds of audio equipment by the different kinds of content that you’re creating. So how do you, how do you approach which Which microphone you’re using for, you know, mobile on the go interviews versus podcasts and live streams like this versus like music performances, business presentations.

[00:37:10] I know I saw in the comments as well, someone being like, is it okay now that we have our microphones in our shots? What,

[00:37:16] Laura Davidson: yeah. It’s

[00:37:17] Katie Fawkes: what advice do you have for like what microphone for use case?

[00:37:22] Laura Davidson: Yeah, that’s a great question. And it, it depends on if you’re going to be doing multiple applications. For example, I am on Teams calls all day, for sure, all day. And then I’m podcasting and then I’m recording, you know? So that’s why I like something like the MV7 because it’s super versatile for all three of those applications.

[00:37:44] But if you know that you’re going to primarily be doing your content creation on the go, that’s when you would go with something like an MV88 Plus because it’s going to be more versatile and you have that ability to control it.

[00:37:57] Katie Fawkes: and

[00:37:58] Laura Davidson: you’re going to be stationary and in like the same spot every time, you know, you want to make the investment, go with the SM7B because, I mean, it’s, it’s The best, it’s just not the most portable of our microphones, you know, so that’s kind of considerations there.

[00:38:16] if you are doing things with a digital SLR setup, or maybe a Sony camera, like what I have here, then you could go with a shotgun mic, but That’s still not going to reach out and grab your sound. That gives you a focused sound powered and going into your camera. So that’s the kind of advantage there.

[00:38:38] it’s a lens hopper that we make as the VP83F. It’s on the camera, it’s in the form factor and it works with your workflow. But that’s if you’re going to be doing tripod based shooting and you’re only going to be about this far away, which is like two feet away. You don’t really want to make it extend because shotgun mics are not magnifying glasses.

[00:38:57] I always say that to people. Doc would be preaching it too. He has strong feelings about this.

[00:39:04] Jeff Sieh: this is on that, that topic that Katie brought up. This is from, Rainy Cajun says, are we in agreement that having a mic in the frame is finally acceptable? I, I, I’ve been doing it for, gosh, almost 20 years. Like I’ve always had a mic in my shot. I’ve never had anybody said, why do you have a mic in your shot?

[00:39:19] Nobody’s ever asked that to me. So

[00:39:21] Laura Davidson: use this on PTO Zoom calls, yo. Like, I am not afraid, okay? Get it in the shot.

[00:39:27] Katie Fawkes: Yeah, I think that comes from, and I could be wrong, but I think a lot of that comes from the kind of Zoom keynote PowerPoint presentation folks who are trying to look more quote unquote professional and not as kind of podcaster y as, as a lot, like, as this tends to look. So yeah, I think it, it is interesting.

[00:39:49] I feel like it’s more, it’s becoming more and more accessible even for that group that people are like, Oh, this person, you know, is showing up and looking more professional. Whereas maybe even, you know, a year or two ago, it was like, probably looked a little bit weird if someone was showing up to do a presentation and they were this close to the microphone or talking into a microphone.

[00:40:07] Laura Davidson: Right. Good point.

[00:40:09] Jeff Sieh: yeah. Yeah. I think I, I just, I’ve really, I’ve never had somebody like, what is that in your face? Nobody’s ever said

[00:40:14] Katie Fawkes: Yeah. I think it’s like an internal thought. I don’t. Yeah, I don’t think anyone is like sitting there going like, Oh, well, Jeff is clearly not presenting properly because he’s got a microphone in front. I think it’s like an internal game that we play with ourselves.

[00:40:27] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. I mean, I get it with the YouTubers used to have those mics that were off shot, you know, off screen and shooting in and like, but you just get so much better sound. And if once again, you know, I’m on the repurposing train all the time, like you’ve got to repurpose your content and having great audio lets you have so much more options that you can use it with like in anyway.

[00:40:47] So I’ll, I’ll stop there. But, so this is a great question from Neil.

[00:40:53] Laura Davidson: I’m laughing at Eden’s comments. Sorry. We’ll get to you, Eden.

[00:40:57] Jeff Sieh: Yes, if you don’t want to have a mic in the shot, what mic would you recommend?

[00:41:02] Laura Davidson: Yeah, Neil, I saw your question too, and that’s a great, that is a great one. you’ve got to go with a lavalier. I mean, honestly, microphones just, you can’t have a magical mic that reaches out and grabs your sound. It will not work. It’s going to pick up the space. They are not selective in their hearing.

[00:41:22] So if you don’t want it in your shot, getting something like a lavalier, which I normally have one tangled up in everything and, yeah, I only have a head worn right here.

[00:41:33] Katie Fawkes: Jeremy.

[00:41:34] Laura Davidson: It’s very inconspicuous. And if you have a clip live on a clip on lavalier that just goes right here, you know, especially on this black shirt, you wouldn’t even see it.

[00:41:43] So that’s the answer. You got to use a live. I mean, you could get creative and have A shotgun mic that’s out of shot, you know, because they do use that for dialogue recording in film and TV. but why, you know, why do that to yourself when you could just have a, have a little tiny lavalier that you’re wearing?

[00:42:06] Katie Fawkes: That’s also like really heavily, I, I feel like again to like the, the conversation about use case, those, the, that dialogue and what they’re doing in like a movie or a television show is heavily edited, like whole crews of post production teams. So, you know, if you are again, like in the podcasting, presenting, live streaming group, you are never going to be that level, nor should you be, that level of post production.

[00:42:32] So it’s,

[00:42:33] Laura Davidson: right,

[00:42:34] Katie Fawkes: Cutting yourself up for way more work for no real benefit. It’s a perceived, a perceived benefit.

[00:42:42] Laura Davidson: right,

[00:42:43] Jeff Sieh: So deal caster says the only rule is you cannot put a blue Yeti in the shot.

[00:42:48] Katie Fawkes: No blue yetis in

[00:42:49] Jeff Sieh: The funny thing is, is I started like that was my first, it was the pro though. It’s like, and I had, and I used it for a long time. So he’s just being mean. But, no, it’s, you know, if you have to go with what you got at the beginning, but we’ve talked about some, some reasonably priced microphones that you guys can, can use.

[00:43:07] this is a, I want to like take it from the very, very beginner because somebody just, okay, I just bought Ecamm, I want to do a podcast. what mic do I do get and how do I hook it up to Ecamm? Like, there’s probably some people who don’t know, like, okay, I bought Ecamm, but I don’t know how to get it to my computer, so let’s talk about some, maybe some interfaces, and we’ll start with you, Laura, and then we’ll end up with Katie kind of talking about how to get it working with Ecamm.

[00:43:33] Laura Davidson: Yeah, so if you use something like the MV7 that I’m talking into right now, it’s a USB microphone, so it’s acting as my interface. So it’s taking acoustic energy, i. e. my mouth talking, and converting it into an electrical signal going into my computer. That’s my setup right now. MV7, plugged into a MacBook Pro, set of headphones, plugged into the back of my MV7.

[00:43:55] That’s it. So, that’s one way of doing it. It’s all encompassing, and it’s still, it’s like a really good price if you were to do everything all together. 249 plus the SE215s, I’m using the Aonic 5s because I’m fancy. but, that could be a great… Starter kit. And if you want something that could also be multi purpose, like if you’re a singer and you want to have a mic that could go from stage to podcast, the, the SM58 is an incredible option for that.

[00:44:24] And then you would get an interface like this MVX2U. And, you know, you plug that directly into your computer. This is your interface. I know it looks very small and unassuming, but it’s a powerful tool. And an SM58 is, it looks like that, in case you’re wondering. Although this is on an SLXD wireless transmitter, because this is what I had in front of me at the moment.

[00:44:49] What else can I pull from my bag of tricks?

[00:44:51] Katie Fawkes: It looks just like the emoji. If you want to just

[00:44:54] Laura Davidson: It does!

[00:44:54] Katie Fawkes: emoji

[00:44:55] Jeff Sieh: I want the emoji mic. Yes, that’s what. Sadly, there are people who will do that. Like, I want the emoji mic. So, okay, Katie, so we got the interface, we got the mics. How do we get it to work with Ecamm? Because

[00:45:07] Katie Fawkes: Oh my gosh.

[00:45:08] Jeff Sieh: want to have great stuff, you have to use Ecamm. And

[00:45:11] Katie Fawkes: up. So you’re, you’re, you’re welcome for all of that. It, like, see, I have the same setup, that Laura does. So I have my MV7 just literally plugged directly by USB into my computer. And it shows up as an audio source in Ecamm. So I just need to make sure that I go into my sound levels menu and just make sure that it says Shure MV7.

[00:45:30] If you’re getting a little bit more complicated and you’re connecting through, through XLR and through different interface, then you just need to make sure That is, make sure in your, in your drop down menu that you, that you have the correct interface, connected into Ecamm. But they automatically, they automatically just come in.

[00:45:49] So I know that like, for example, we have a number of people in our community who use the Roadcaster Pro, probably mostly for the shiny light up buttons. That’s like, you know, why most, most, most people like things for the light up buttons. but if, if that’s coming in, then yeah, you would select, you would change over from.

[00:46:06] You’re MV7 through to your Rodecaster Pro so that then you’re telling Ecamm that’s where we’re picking up the audio from. So it really is. It’s. Plug and play anything that you connect in, whether it’s a camera or a microphone, shows up in Ecamm. You just have to make sure you’re, you’ve selected the right one.

[00:46:23] Jeff Sieh: that’s actually what I am using in, for this show, and I’ve been using it for years. And I have the original Rodecaster Pro, and I’m just taking every, I have a, on my flow of my show, I have like, One of the steps is to change over to, you know, Rodecaster Pro on both the audio and the video, because I actually monitor out from my.

[00:46:42] Katie Fawkes: And if you’re monitoring, like you will notice immediately, like it’s become a nonstop joke on our podcast that I do with my best friend cause she’s, she’s got like still, I need to upgrade her microphone. She’s got like the, the, one of the tiny Shura microphones that I like used to adore because they were so

[00:46:57] Laura Davidson: Oh, the mv5.

[00:46:59] Katie Fawkes: yeah, so she still has that one. We need to, we need to move up to a fun design one, but, but the second that she joins in, she’s not, you know, paying as much attention. And you can, and so it’s picking up the audio from her headphones, like the little microphone in her headphones. And I’m like, Oh, no, bad.

[00:47:13] This is bad. You need to change. So it’s, it’s immediately noticeable when you have the wrong connection selected when you’re using a good quality microphone. So.

[00:47:23] Jeff Sieh: so we, oh my gosh, this, this has passed so fast and everyone’s nerding out. And so, you have, this is the final call for questions, so ask your questions, but I have one, before we kind of go into the last question. so I want to know, and this is from Shannon, he, Shannon Hernandez, who helps me produce Guy Kawasaki’s podcast.

[00:47:41] And he goes, ask her, like, how much, Did Joe Rogan using your SM7B change, like, the, the landscape for sure? Did everybody want, I want Joe Rogan’s mic now? Is that how it kind of

[00:47:53] Laura Davidson: I mean, honestly, it’s been kind of a perfect storm of people noticing that Mike, but also The pandemic, everyone turned inwards and got stuck in their house and started creating content and podcasting. And then they were Googling, you know, podcasting mics. And that one happened to be the most visible because some people said, well, why didn’t Shirk come out with the SM7DB 10 years ago?

[00:48:19] Because there was no demand for the SM7DB because it was still being used in studios and broadcast houses that had powerful enough interfaces to drive it. So when people are like, well, no, you missed it short, it’s like, well, you know, we’re always innovating and making new things and This was when the demand came.

[00:48:38] So did he help? I mean, I think probably, but it just kind of was a combination of things. Also with MV7 coming out in 2020, you know, that brought more visibility to this style of microphone with based on the boom arm. And then people were like, well, what’s the best and finding out that SM7B was. And so, yeah.

[00:48:57] I don’t know if that answered it.

[00:48:58] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, yeah, that was, it was just an interesting thing that he wanted me to ask him. He helps me, so I have to, keep him happy. So, Tacey says, is a lavalier sure as well? What’s the, because I know she’s probably looking for a lavalier to use. What would, what would you recommend for, from Shura for that?

[00:49:14] Laura Davidson: Yeah. So we have several lovelier options on Shore. com or Amazon, but, if you go to Shore. com, you can kind of go through this thing where you choose what you want the microphone to do. It’s like our mic finder, and it’ll say, I want a microphone to capture my voice. In my house for a podcast, and then I’ll spit out some really good options for you.

[00:49:36] But in terms of lavaliers, we have a few different lines. One of them is called Uniplex, which is really great for podcasting because it’s a unidirectional mic. Traditionally, lavaliers are what’s called omnidirectional. Omni meaning all. So they pick up and hear like the human ear does. They hear everything.

[00:49:53] Whereas a unidirectional mic is more like this, where it’s Directionally focused on one source in one direction. So Uniplex is great. Duraplex, if you’re going to be out in the field, Duraplex means durable. It’s, it’s impervious to dust, dirt, water. It’s IPX rated. That’s a fancy term for just saying you can beat the snot out of it and things won’t get into it that you don’t want.

[00:50:17] So that’s really good for that. And then The creme de la creme, the TwinPlex. And all of these plexes on there is in reference to the cable, which is super durable and it’s made, from like medical grade cable that would go inside of your body. So it can’t break, is

[00:50:37] Jeff Sieh: you have an accident, you could suture your friend with your

[00:50:40] Laura Davidson: Right.

[00:50:41] Let’s not say that

[00:50:42] Jeff Sieh: okay. Okay.

[00:50:44] Laura Davidson: I’m not saying it won’t break ever, but it is. Much, much more durable. So all of those lavaliers I mentioned have that Plex technology built in. So depends on your budget, depends on your needs, but I would say Uniplex is a great place to start.

[00:50:59] Jeff Sieh: Very cool. Yeah. Cause Tacey, Tacey said, that she needed one for presenting and speaking events.

[00:51:05] Laura Davidson: Oh, great.

[00:51:06] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, so it’s go in there and do that finder and it will help you Tasty because I know they have those. Yeah, that’s what I was

[00:51:12] Laura Davidson: yeah, this is cool. The, the head worn, I know this looks kind of silly, but like, it’s so great. I’m a, when I do perform my loop and I’ve loved using this mic, it’s kind of different because then I, I don’t have to be anchored to a mic. I can be going wherever I want and look down at the looper and look back up.

[00:51:28] So. For performance, for speaking, for theater. It’s a great option.

[00:51:33] Jeff Sieh: Good, Mike. Awesome. So we, I’ll let, Katie, I’ll let you have the final question because I have hogged

[00:51:41] Katie Fawkes: All right, well, this one might be a big one, but I feel like we can’t finish off this episode without having Laura answer one of the, the most common question we get from people who are getting into audio on the Ecamm side is, how do I avoid and or deal with echo, slapback, weird noises and, and audio issues that come up as I’m getting into my podcast?

[00:52:05] Laura Davidson: That’s a good one. And I think we can actually, because Katie, I’m hearing a little bit of echo and slapback from your mic. I don’t know if you’re hearing it on my end, but we could, we could do this in real life right now.

[00:52:17] Katie Fawkes: All right. Let’s do it.

[00:52:17] Laura Davidson: can you put us in split screen? Oh, there we go. Okay. So I want you to tilt your microphone a little bit more off axis, just a bit,

[00:52:27] Katie Fawkes: Like up or

[00:52:28] Laura Davidson: side, like this,

[00:52:30] Katie Fawkes: Oh, okay. Yep. All

[00:52:31] Laura Davidson: Yeah, and I want you to get a little bit closer to it.

[00:52:35] Katie Fawkes: All right. Hang on. I’m in like the weirdest setup today. Hello.

[00:52:40] Laura Davidson: as close as you can. There you

[00:52:43] Katie Fawkes: Hello. Hello. Hello.

[00:52:45] Laura Davidson: So now do you hear how she has lost all of the echo in her space? So keep talking

[00:52:49] Katie Fawkes: Hello. I’m talking into my fancy, awesome new mic. I’m really into it for the color.

[00:52:54] Laura Davidson: now go back to where you were and do the same thing.

[00:52:58] Katie Fawkes: I’ll move my mic. Hello, hello. Hello, hello. Test, test.

[00:53:02] Laura Davidson: So you can hear there’s more space in her room, but as the closer she got to the mic while still staying off axis, got rid of the plosives and got rid of the room space. I mean, her room sounds great, so it’s, it’s fine. But if anyone’s like, what is that noise? Or what is that sound I’m hearing? Try getting closer to your mic.

[00:53:21] Try adding absorptive materials, and make sure you’re using a dynamic mic. Those are the, the three

[00:53:26] Katie Fawkes: I actually, I have my, I have my towel, my old ugly brown towel on my desk. I’m trying to be, I’m trying to be better in taking feedback, but I’m also like at home on my craft table, and I’ve tried like moving my backgrounds around. So I’m,

[00:53:40] Laura Davidson: The mushroom wallpaper is rocking my world right now, I just have to say.

[00:53:45] Katie Fawkes: I know, except that I am having, so, so see if any, if you’re like. If you’re like, oh, goodness, you know, I hate my background or I’m not, I’ve been playing with cameras and like common issues Ecamm people have been having. So I’m, I’m sacrificing myself a little bit. Like, I didn’t think that I have this up in front of me, which is driving me crazy.

[00:54:02] And I’m using my built, my built in camera because I was playing with my phone camera and that like, Okay, well scouting has failed me and it was like causing a mic delay or something was weird happening and then I was playing with like this other camera. So yeah, I’m, thank you. I, I’m, I’m doing well in the audio side of it.

[00:54:20] But not over video side, playing around. Yeah. See like I bump my thing and it shakes. Yeah, I’m, I’m owning it

[00:54:27] Jeff Sieh: Chris goes live, Mike Technique, yes, he loves all this stuff, he is a super nerd, he is the resident super audio nerd here at Social Media News Live, but once again, this has been, this, we need to do part two, because we could go on and talk a lot more about this, I think, Mike Technique is super important and all the things that you’ve given us, but I want to let people know where they can find all about you, your music, which is, Fabulous.

[00:54:51] over on spot. It really is. I was like, I didn’t know. I didn’t know that. She didn’t tell me that when I met her. So very, very good. So tell people where they can find you, your music, all this stuff that is all about you.

[00:55:04] Laura Davidson: so you can find me at lauraclapmusic, that’s C L A P P, which you see right there, or lauraclap. com, if you want to get into the music side. And Song 43 is my podcast, it’s on all of the platforms, and I talk about how this creator creates while being a mom, working full time, and doing all the things.

[00:55:25] So if you’ve ever wanted to know how songs come together while trying to do 4, 000 things at once. You should listen to Song 43.

[00:55:33] Jeff Sieh: Yes. Very, very cool that, yeah. So go and listen. Find her channel on Spotify and, and put that in your playlist ’cause it’s really, really good music. Katie, where can people find out more about you and your podcast? You mentioned your podcast a couple times. Tell people about that. Where they can find you and all the stuff that is Katie Fox.

[00:55:49] Katie Fawkes: goodness, I always feel guilty promoting my like,

[00:55:51] Jeff Sieh: No, do

[00:55:52] Katie Fawkes: podcast on Ecamm

[00:55:53] Laura Davidson: dude.

[00:55:54] Katie Fawkes: but so I am available and you can find me through all things Ecamm, that’s E C A M M, I’m, I touch all of those things, so I’m easy to find on the Ecamm side. If you like, Movies, especially ones that are from the 80s and 90s, then you can check us out at thevhsclubpod.

[00:56:11] com. We record live every Thursday at 9 p. m. Eastern on YouTube, and you can find our show on all places where podcasts happen.

[00:56:20] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. And by the way,

[00:56:22] Laura Davidson: I gotta interject, Jeff, real quick. Shore. com is where you find all the information about these products that we’ve been talking about. YouTube, sign up and subscribe to the Shore Creators channel, which was thrown in the chat a few times. Thank you, Chris and Jim, to learn about how you do that with different products and different questions that you may have and check out those promotions that are running through the end of December.

[00:56:45] Jeff Sieh: yes, awesome, awesome products, awesome company. but, and, and, Kira says, this has been so helpful, I learned so much, and, Amazon wishlist is now longer. Yes, yes, I, I feel your pain, Kira. by the way, I wanted to do a shout out to, you know, Ecamm once again. They’re amazing for sponsoring this show.

[00:57:03] You can find out more about them at socialmedianewslive. com forward slash Ecamm. But, we are doing a meetup right before podcast at the Disney Parks. I think we’re going to do it at Hollywood Studios. I’m going to be there with my friend Paul Gouder who’s been on the show before. But Ecamm is going to be there with us.

[00:57:19] So it’s the day before Podfest. I believe it’s that… Wednesday, the 24th, but it’s free, come hang out with us, we’re gonna be riding the rides, gonna be eating all the food, we’re gonna be talking about podcasting and all the other stuff, but it’s free to come and just hang out with us, go to jeffsieh.

[00:57:36] com forward slash podfest meetup, Katie’s gonna be there, and she’s never been on there, she’s never ridden Ride of the Resistance, so it’s gonna be

[00:57:43] Katie Fawkes: I am really fun on rides, you guys, so

[00:57:45] Jeff Sieh: oh, so, I can just, I have no, I can

[00:57:48] Laura Davidson: ride ever.

[00:57:49] Jeff Sieh: Yes. and Tower of Terror, all the stuff, all the new things. It’s gonna be fun, so come join us if you’re going to PodFest, come a day earlier and join us there because I’m telling you, it is gonna be a blast.

[00:58:01] So, JeffSieh. com forward slash PodFest meetup. And with that, folks, thank you guys so much for joining us. We will see you guys next time, and with that, see you guys later. Bye now.

[00:58:11] Laura Davidson: Bye!

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