Did you try Discord at one time and just think it was Slack for gamers?

If you’re unfamiliar with Discord, it’s a popular communication platform that allows for real-time voice and text chat. It’s often used by gamers, but it’s also a great tool for businesses, teams, and other groups looking to improve their communication and collaboration.

Is Discord right for your brand or business?

This week, we have Discord expert Keely Dunn discussing the many features and benefits of Discord and how it can help your business or teams. We’ll also be taking questions from the audience, so if you have any questions about Discord, be sure to tune in and ask!

SHOW TRANSCRIPT

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[00:00:00] Jeff Sieh: Welcome to Social Media. News. Live. I’m Jeff Sieh and you’re not. And this is the show where we give you all the up-to-date information that you can handle about social media.

[00:00:09] So, I’m so excited. I’ve got my friend here from across Pond, Ian Anderson, gray. Ian, how are you doing today?

[00:00:15] Ian Anderson Gray: I’m doing really well. Yeah, so just if you’re confused, I’m not Grace, I’m, I’m afraid I’m not as beautiful as Grace, but you’re gonna have to put up with me today. But maybe my British accent will do something to level up the, the show somehow.

[00:00:27] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. And, and like I said in the pre-show, I’m so excited that Keeley Dunn is here. We’re talking all about Discord. It’s, it’s gonna be a fabulous show, so make sure you ask your questions. And if you don’t know who Keeley is she is fabulous. I’ve been following her for a long time. She doesn’t know that, but I’ve stock a lot of people.

[00:00:46] But she is a multipreneur content creator, which I love, I love that term. I’m gonna have to steal it. And as FH Hump umpires, FH umpires, she educates field hockey umpires players, coaches, and fans worldwide, and supports umpires to perform at their best. Now with Discord for creators, she works with content creators, building engaged and valuable communities on Discord.

[00:01:10] She is also the co-host of the Mastermind podcast that is the creator’s pod. We’re talking today all about Discord. So Keeley, I want you to come at this because it’s true. I am a total kind of newbie at this. I am in part of your some of your, your groups that you have created. But I’m just scratched the surface of what Discord is.

[00:01:31] And by the way, I do want to do big shout out to our friends who help sponsor the show. Ecamm, you can find out more about them at socialmedianewslive.com/ecamm slash Ecamm. They are what makes the show possible. That’s what I’m Streaming on. The other cool thing is that Keeley has actually helped them set up their very own Discord server.

[00:01:49] So if you wanna see what that looks like, go to Ecamm tv slash discord. You can see all the magic that Keeley has put together over there. So, if you have, you wanna kind of dip your toes into Discord and see what it’s like. This is a great place to start. Ecamm TV slash discord. So, Keeley, as we’re just getting started, like.

[00:02:09] And like I said, I’m a total newbie. Explain to people what Discord is like if they’ve never heard about it before or they’ve heard it and they just thought like me for a long time, that it was just slack for gamers.

[00:02:19] Keely Dunn: Right. Well, J Jeff, I’m not here to throw shade or anything, but I think you’ve probably been around for a few minutes.

[00:02:26] Mm-hmm. , you, you’ve been around the internet and you’ve seen bulletin boards Right. And forums and do you remember I rrc back in the day? Mm-hmm. ? I do. So you can take all that and all those cozy, nostalgic feelings you’re gonna get when you see those environments. And then you can add it to Facebook groups and WhatsApp and Zoom without the suck and apps like that.

[00:02:51] And it’s, it’s all of those things all together and. Pretty much anything you want it to be. Their slogan is, imagine a Place, and I actually said that accidentally in one of my presentations, and I’m like, oh, I’ve bought the Totally drinking the Kool-Aid . But really it’s, it’s, it’s what you want it to be, and that flexibility can look a little intimidating for some people at the outset, but really it can grow very organically with you and yeah, you can do anything with it for your community.

[00:03:24] Jeff Sieh: So just really quick, back to kind of the, you know, what is Discord and, and you, I know you have a question coming up that I’ll, I, I want to break in real quick too, but it’s a separate app. It doesn’t live on any other thing. So do you own your own Discord channel, or is it somebody else’s? I mean, how it it’s a, it’s a different app, kind of.

[00:03:45] Like I said, it’s kind of like Slack, but it’s not really, so can you kind of explain more like where does it live and all that kind of stuff? ,

[00:03:54] Keely Dunn: Well, it lives on the internet, , but it is, all of, all of Discord is made up of what they call servers. Mm-hmm. , they used to call them guilt until they thought, okay, that may be a little too nerdy.

[00:04:06] let’s expand our horizons a little bit. So one from Guild to server. And now a lot of people just call them communities. Okay. Because server sounds overly technical for what it is, but think of, for example, your Facebook group on that platform is just a corner that you’ve set up that has your people in it, and you can do the things that you want to under the supervision of Mark Zuckerberg and all the advertising.

[00:04:31] Mm-hmm. , discord is like that except without the Zuckerberg and without the advertising. So individual communities are hosted on Discord and, but connect through the entire database. Discord is just like the super powerful database of people and posts and emojis and. and, and, and servers that are all just individual pieces that all interlink together to a certain extent.

[00:05:00] But you can have a very private server there, or you can even have a public server that people can hop into at their will when they discover it.

[00:05:08] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. Yeah,

[00:05:10] Ian Anderson Gray: you’re true. That’s really cool. So like, I think Discord has this, a lot of people see it as a kind of a gaming platform, and like my son’s massively into gaming, into, into Minecraft and stuff, and, and he, he, he keeps on going on about discord when it comes to, to that side of things and YouTube creators.

[00:05:27] So is it just for that or can businesses use it and can we use it like for professional communication as well? How, how has that kind of progressed over?

[00:05:37] Keely Dunn: They’ve really changed in the last few years. I don’t know if you heard about this thing that happened in about March, 2020, but that caused a whole ripple of changes for a lot of online services like Discord.

[00:05:50] So according to Fast Company, back in 2021, about 30% of the users of Discord were on there for primarily non-gaming purposes. But in the following year, that had completely slipped to 80%. 80% of the people were there to use Discord. Not for gaming primarily, but I’ve heard that people or these multifaceted, you know, entities that contain multitudes, and so they.

[00:06:20] Be gamers. They might get into gaming because they’ve found Discord and they’ve got kids that are playing and they’re like, oh, this community aspect of gaming is fun. This is the thing that I, I like about gaming, is I can play with people. Or you might find photography groups, you might find content creator communities.

[00:06:37] You might find N F T and crypto communities and things like that. So really the, the pandemic brought about an entire shift, I think, to Discords model. They were worth a lot of money before the pandemic and mm-hmm. , but that just completely exploded them because they’ve been using a freemium model for a long time and that’s been very, very effective.

[00:07:02] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. So we got some comments I wanna bring up. So, Gary, I, it must be true because you’re here. He says, British, British accents give you more mojo. So I think that’s, once again, you know, Ian’s gotta fill in for for a while now rich says she gives a big shout out. She goes, Hey gang Akeley, so you got your fan, a bass here.

[00:07:20] And then reg says, I used to score as a to-do list Notepad, organizer, and as a community builder. So it’s kind of like the jack of all trades there. For Reg, the, the question I have. So, okay, let’s say you’ve convinced me. I’m gonna do this cuz here. That was quick. . I’ve been following you for a while.

[00:07:41] I told you that, I told you that. . So the thing is, what’s attractive to me about Discord right now is I think that social media has moved from where it was started to where it was, I want to know more, I want to connect with Ian, I wanna connect with Keely cuz we’re not in the same, you know, space. But it’s turning into more entertainment network and I’m really, and I’m really looking for stuff off platform that I could build a community with.

[00:08:08] And so Discord and the thing that’s gonna win is where people have adopted the platform the most. And Discord already has like millions of users. So let’s dive into like some of the key features. The, the first of which, like, how much does it cost me if I said, okay, Keeley, I’m, I’m ready to go. What does it cost me to set up a Discord server?

[00:08:27] Do I have to rent hosting space? Do I have to, is it, you know, locked down to so many users? How does that model work? You kind of mentioned freemium there for a while.

[00:08:35] Keely Dunn: Yeah. This much . Okay, great. Especially that much. I like that to start. Yeah. So, and for those of you who don’t, , who can’t surmise, I, I, on the podcast, I put up a zero , it, it is completely free to use what the premium or the, the premium features that you can incorporate into your experience, whether.

[00:08:57] Doing that as a user, and you could subscribe to a service they call Nitro, which gives you the ability to upload posts to to bigger upload limits, like a hundred megabytes instead of just 10. It increases your ability to, it gives you two free server boosters, which if you’re a server owner, server boosters are great because they open up some premium features for you in terms of being able to share screens in your voice channels at higher resolutions and bit rates up to 60 frames per second, which is pretty dope.

[00:09:34] Sound quality up to 356 kilobits per second. Pretty dope. So there’s, there are options out there. And for me, I believe that if you are a business, if you are a content creator who is hosting a community on Discord, you want to have a boosted server to. Level two is probably where you want it to be so that you can have cool custom emojis.

[00:09:58] And I know it sounds goofy, but these, I swear, custom emojis and gifts, just, they make the experience fun. And that really is the thing that I think Discord does best in the entire space more than all the other people. Like Circle and Heartbeat and Mighty Networks, they have their jam. Mm-hmm. . But it ain’t fun.

[00:10:21] And if you wanna have fun, you can come over to Discord and experience all the goofiness and weirdness and it just, I think that extends through to your community as well. And people really enjoy themselves there.

[00:10:34] Jeff Sieh: So, it’s really interesting. So, reg, reg says I get Nitro just to use the custom emojis that I want to use, which is cool.

[00:10:43] Exactly. And Jim, see, I think Jim introduced me to you maybe the first time he goes a Hello Discord Queen . Thanks Jim for that. And Eddie Garrison says, Keeley Dunn, I like emojis too. So, I mean, it’s, it’s a big deal for people to put this stuff to have this. So how much is the cost to, like you said, if you’re gonna start one to kind of level up to level two, what’s the cost on that?

[00:11:04] Do you know? I think

[00:11:07] Keely Dunn: you need I’m, I’m just looking over at my server right now. I need 15 boosts for level three. So I think for level two you need seven boosts. So you need the equi. Well, you know, they, they make it difficult to budget in that respect, but I, me, myself, I spend about 95 moose dollars on.

[00:11:28] Discord a month, which incorporates all the server boosters that I have for my two servers that are boosted up to the hilt, and then a few other boosts that I give to my friends and their other communities because I’m, you know, kind of cool that way. And to me, that is an incredible piece of value for all the things that I can do here.

[00:11:50] But you, again, you don’t have to do any of these things. You can have a beautiful, functional, fun, engaged server without any money whatsoever. And I think that is a, a compelling way to start.

[00:12:03] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. So, Jim goes, Keely made me buy Nitro, so I guess I get It’s pretty funny. Yeah. Jim just listens to he, he’s like me.

[00:12:12] He’s like, I’ll just do what she says. So real quick, Ian, before you go, and I wanna, I wanna Ian, ask some questions before the show that I wanna make sure that you have a chance to ask Ian. Cause I think a lot of people have the same thoughts. Mm-hmm. . But before we move on, kind of the next section Keely, like what are, what are the key features of Discords?

[00:12:29] Like you mentioned, you know, it’s different from Circle and all that stuff. Why can’t I just get Slack and do the same thing? And you also mentioned live, like the bit rate, and so you can Restream live inside of Discord discord, just, you know, without any, it can be a destination. Is that what

[00:12:45] Keely Dunn: you’re saying?

[00:12:45] You can absolutely. Okay. A destination. It’s not a, it doesn’t save and record in that destination. So people are often worried about that. So what I say to them is, well, that’s. YouTube is for , right? Right. That’s a place where you can deposit for, replay the videos that you, that you make and the, the, the live streams and the activities that you do.

[00:13:09] But Discord can absolutely be a destination. You can add virtual cameras to Discord the way that, the same way you can with teams and, and Zoom and things like that. So you can use your Ecamm right into Discord as well as using their own share screen functionality, which works way better than Zoom’s does.

[00:13:29] You can share people, multiple people can share their screens. in discord as well as have their video up at the same time. But like voice channels, I could go on for hours about, because you can customize your experience and change people’s volumes and turn off their videos if you don’t wanna see that person who’s got some distracting thing going on.

[00:13:51] If their British accent is overwhelming , you can mute them so you don’t hear them, you know? Right. Whatever, whatever the case might be. And the that’s just one way, and that, that’s where I think you can experience a lot of the creativity. That’s as a community owner you can use, but they have their own equivalent of a Twitter space or Clubhouse, which is called stages.

[00:14:12] Mm-hmm. . So you can do an audio only presentation and you can invite people up to the stage and it’s its own type of channel. It’s got forum channels so that if you need to have a very organized space for q and a where people can ask their individual questions and all the answers and all the discussion that.

[00:14:32] Comes pursuant to that can all be in one little post. And that, that’s super convenient for sure. It can be used primarily for texting, but I think you’ve got so much more with the voice capabilities and how you can hold events in there. And Discord just rolled out memberships natively. Oh yeah. So content creators can monetize their communities.

[00:14:56] But you were probably gonna ask me about that, so I’ll I

[00:14:58] Jeff Sieh: was, but, but I know Ian had some, some good thoughts too. Mm-hmm. before but before your question, I want to bring up another comment. Thanks, reg, for all your comments and questions. He goes if you have a fan base, they can donate a boost to your server if they’re in your Discord community.

[00:15:11] So that’s really, really cool as well. Mm-hmm. . So, go ahead. Yeah, that’s, oh, go ahead, Kee. I’m sorry. You were gonna say something.

[00:15:17] Keely Dunn: I was just gonna say that that’s, that’s okay. And it’s nice to have your server boosted, but that money goes to Discord. I would much rather that. My fans are sending their, their hard-earned money to me.

[00:15:31] Mm-hmm. , and then I can pay for the boost myself, and that’s what I recommend that professional server owners do. And then I can decide how to use that revenue and, and that sort of thing. So I boosting is nice for a very, like, casual, we’re actually all in this together, but if you’re doing this professionally, I think you wanna mon monetize your membership.

[00:15:53] Mm-hmm.

[00:15:54] Ian Anderson Gray: Interesting. Mm-hmm. That’s great. That’s fascinating. Yeah, so I mean, there’s so many features that I want to ask you about, but I, I, one kind of concern that some people have or like, or when, when I’m talking about discord is social media’s really changed as we talked about, and it feels like discord and is, is a fragmentation of the community.

[00:16:17] So it would be that you go onto Facebook and you’d be able to connect with pretty much everyone on there. Now, if you want to connect, if I want to connect with Jeff, . I mean, I know Jeff’s aren’t still on, on social media, but I would have to connect with him on his discord. And if I want to connect with you, Keely, I’d have to disc, I’d have to connect with you on your server.

[00:16:36] How, how, what was your, what would you say about that? About the fragmentation side of things and what would you say to people who have that as a concern to, to, to have discord to actually bring people together, not separate people?

[00:16:50] Keely Dunn: That’s a great question and, and a valid concern because one of the weaknesses of Discord is actually the privacy that’s built in.

[00:16:59] So instead of signing up for a Facebook account where you are handing over everything about yourself to, to the platform, who then monetize you out of mm-hmm. , out by farming you out to advertisers, discord keeps that. They don’t ask for any of that information. You have to verify. or you can verify your account with an email and a lot of servers will require you to be verified that way.

[00:17:25] But that’s all Otherwise Discord doesn’t track any, inform any information. They don’t sell it. So yes, it is harder to build the social network. And so what I say to that and, and I think going back to what you said earlier, Jeff, about how Instagram and, and all those things have changed, they’re now recommendation media rather than social media, that Discord is, isn’t a replacement for Facebook.

[00:17:49] It’s what I consider to be the top of the community pyramid. So if I’m building an experience for the people that I wanna bring into my world and I wanna build something awesome with, I start out with Discovery Media, which is now Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, right? All those things. Right. And then I do live streams on.

[00:18:09] So YouTube is discoverable, but when I do a live Restream experience, it’s pretty much like it’s, it’s long. I talk to people, I get to know them. It’s very much relationship building. And then from there I say, Hey, you know, we’ve been dating for a little while. Do you wanna ? Do you wanna go steady? Yeah. Do you wanna bring your toothbrush over?

[00:18:29] I have a discord. And that’s the place where we really, really get into this long-term relationship thing. And we then can go from me to many, to many, to many, including me. . Mm-hmm. . And that to me is the power. And I think more than offsets the the, the, the con of not being able to sort of connect directly with your people like that the, the way that you would in, in Facebook and that sort of thing.

[00:19:01] So you, you just have to reorganize your model of how you are building your community, and then it completely makes sense. And it’s an, it’s an amazing experience, I think.

[00:19:12] Ian Anderson Gray: Yeah. And that’s great because that’s, that it’s not a replacement for, for, for social media. It’s, it’s in addition to, and so you can use social media as the discovery, in a sense, discovery engine, but then bring them into your community on Discord.

[00:19:27] And I think that’s the way to see it. I’ve just seen some creators say, social media is dead. Discord is the replacement. And that’s not what you’re saying.

[00:19:35] Keely Dunn: Not at all. Not at all. That’s that, that’s just not gonna serve you very well. Use the platforms for what they’re doing, for what they’re giving you and what Facebook and Instagram are doing, actually.

[00:19:46] I mean, it’s been terrible for your friendship relationships. You can’t find your friends photos on Instagram anymore. Thanks, Kylie Jenner. You’re absolutely right. But you can find new people mm-hmm. , and you can’t find new connections to people that are making content that you are interested in. But what do you do after that?

[00:20:02] You don’t continue that relationship on Facebook or Instagram or even a, a WhatsApp. There’s, there’s too much distraction in those places. When you’re ready to settle down with somebody, you go into their Discord server, and that’s, that’s where all the magic happens. I hope that analogy isn’t too crazy.

[00:20:21] Jeff Sieh: No. So, so I’m gonna call a little bit of Audible here, and Ian, I’m sorry I do this to Grace all the time, but. The, the, the, what I’m thinking about, okay, if say I’m gonna do this and I’ve been really hesitant to do, I’ve done some pop-up Facebook groups before done some training like that. But it’s a lot of work.

[00:20:39] Like having a good, active, vibrant community is a lot of work. And also I didn’t want to do a lot of work and have it go on to like a Facebook group. Then also they start throwing ads in and, or else I don’t own it and all this other questions. Yeah. So I guess I’m talk, so you talked about social media as kind of being the discovery engine and it, they kind of go into the relationship and they’re on your, you know, you move ’em to your discord.

[00:21:02] Server, you know, once they like, Hey, I really like what Keely’s gotta say, I wanna learn how to do this myself, or I want to, you know, I want to get in deeper. So what’s the next step? Can you make a monetized level inside like Keely’s secret group or special group inside your original discord? Or do you have to create another discord server?

[00:21:20] Or how does that flow work? Like when, cuz I know a lot of businesses and a lot of coaches watch this and listen to this. So how do you move it to the next level where you’re not just making community for community’s sake, but this is actually part of your business plan where you can actually make some money down the line.

[00:21:37] Keely Dunn: Yeah. So there’s a number of ways you can do this, and for years, discord has been able to integrate with memberships that you may be hosting on, say, YouTube or Patreon. Mm-hmm. or buy me a coffee. There are ways that you can automatically assign roles to people inside the server, and then what you do is you make certain areas, channels, or entire categories where those channels are nested inside as private only to those roles.

[00:22:07] And that’s where you host your special events. That’s where you give more of your time and your very attentive to your members, whatever the benefits are that you’ve decided, this is what I can provide to people, this is what they really want from me. Then you do that within those private settings.

[00:22:25] And then for what I’ve done in. My own FH umpire server. Mm-hmm. , I’ve set up another bot. One of the most popular bots out there is called me six, and they have a membership, or they’ve had to change the name now to monetization . They’ve got a feature that you can then sell your own memberships through me.

[00:22:45] Six. And that just integrates with Stripe. And boom, there’s an auto payment and you can do the same thing. And then 10 days ago, I don’t know, COVID time. Mm-hmm. , discord launched their own native memberships. It’s US based servers only. So if you are a resident of the United States and you set up your server there, you can use this feature.

[00:23:07] And obviously that’s for taxation purposes, right. You know how complicated things get mm-hmm. , and then you can cordon off areas of your server that’s already existing, or you could switch your entire server to be. Gate gated, I guess. Mm-hmm. where people have to pay in order to see any of it, or you could create an entire new server.

[00:23:30] I think that because of the versatility of, of servers and how you can architect them, you might as well keep it all in the same place. Mm-hmm. . And what I’ve done in mine is I have general areas that everybody can come to that are totally free, and then I have some gated off areas and I let people create all the fomo they can

[00:23:49] I’m like, yeah, talk about all the cool stuff that we’re doing behind the gate because that’s where the me, the real content, the real value, and the time that I invest in my people, that’s where that happens and it’s very, very effective.

[00:24:01] Jeff Sieh: Very cool. Ian, I’ll let you go. I’m sorry, I’m hanging on. That’s

[00:24:04] Ian Anderson Gray: got well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:24:06] No, it’s really good question. And so you, we, you mentioned, we, you talked about the kind of the privacy side of things or privacy, however you pronounce it. I get confused. So, and, and that, Because they can have locked that down. They, or they don’t ask you for a lot of information that that can be seen as a positive thing, obviously, as well.

[00:24:25] So how does Discord handle privacy and security for its users? .

[00:24:31] Keely Dunn: I think that in part of it is just in that they don’t ask for a lot of information anyway. So instead of them using all of the connections that you make with people as data fodder, that just isn’t part of their collection model whatsoever.

[00:24:49] And I see in the comments, reg actually mentioned that there are issues mm-hmm. with nefarious things going on. Absolutely. I actually read an article just last night about how Discords reported cases of abuse of of, of younger people in their platform is only at about, you know, 7% and it’s much higher on Facebook and Instagram and things like that.

[00:25:15] The way that you handle privacy and security and discord is to have a. Gate at the front of your Discord server. And that can be everything from asking people to not only agree to rules, but also they have to react to a particular emoji on a particular post before they can even open up the rest of the server to see everything.

[00:25:39] Because that really helps with eliminating a lot of bots. There’s bots that help you with installing captures and A, all those other tools that you can use in order to screen out the automated processes. And then there are automa auto moderation tools in discord that you can set to be at particular levels of sensitivity.

[00:26:03] Like, oh, if I see these terms automatically hide that message, notify me. And then I can go back and say, yes, that message is fine, or auto delete it. Send a DM to that user saying Please don’t use that language and. Points are docked against that person. So there’s a lot of different layers that you can use.

[00:26:24] You can now have an onboarding system using other programs like Dots or Burb or many of these other vendors who are coming up with solutions that before you even enter the Discord, you’re filling out more information. So if you’re a, a commercial entity and you want to collect people’s emails, because we all know that that is the holy grail, that’s what everybody needs, right?

[00:26:46] In order to truly monetize their community, you can ask for that information, have a little questionnaire to find out more about them, collect the demographic information that actually helps you in your business, and then you allow them into the discord and you can tie that information together thanks to those apps with their user profile.

[00:27:06] But that is outside of Discord. So Discord doesn’t have that information to give out to anybody. Mm-hmm. , and I think that’s very positive. .

[00:27:13] Jeff Sieh: All right. So now I’ve got more and more questions. So many questions. So little time . So you, you mentioned things like bots, I mean, regimen mentioned bots. Mm-hmm.

[00:27:24] he goes, this is good stuff. You mentioned servers and, and all this stuff. And I know people are like listening to this going, oh my gosh, this sounds so complex. Like, I can set up a Facebook group in five minutes. This seems like it’s overwhelming. I know all the kids are doing it, but what a, you know, all the Gen Zers are doing it.

[00:27:43] But what about us old fogies here? Like, should I even try this? I mean, is it worth doing or is it gonna be, you know, it sounds super powerful. Just like, I know a lot of people like open up Adobe Photoshop and they’re like, oh my gosh, this is too overwhelming. There’s too many tabs. All this stuff.

[00:28:02] Talk us down Keeley. Like, why we should, why, and I know you’ve done this in the past cause I’ve seen you on Twitter and some other places going, it’s okay. Because I really do think, I mean, one. just because you’re not familiar with something, but you can see the, for me, it’s the user base. There are a lot of people using Discord.

[00:28:19] There are, as they get older, they’re already familiar with it, they’re gonna move forward. So talk us down, us old folks, Keely, how, why should we get on this Discord bandwagon and tell us It’s not as complex as it

[00:28:30] Keely Dunn: sounds. Exactly. 150 million users, in fact are on Discord. So that’s, that’s a lot of people and lots and lots of servers.

[00:28:41] Were were my stacks here. I think , there’s 19 million active servers. So I, I can tell a story about how I got into Discord because it was two of two very high level members in my community. They were moderators on my YouTube channel, and I respected their opinion very much. They, they came to me and they said, you gotta use Discord.

[00:29:03] You gotta use Discord. And I looked at it and I thought, Are you kidding me? This thing looks ridiculous. It looks exactly like a gamer house. Mm-hmm. . And I thought, there’s no way I, I don’t mean to brag, but I’m super big in sort of the 50 to 70 year old Englishmen set who all are hockey umpires. And I thought, there’s no way they are not gonna wanna come over to this place.

[00:29:27] Right. But they pestered me and they pestered me. And I got on a voice chat with one of them. He ends up being a 15 year old kid in the Netherlands. Really, really smart, lovely kid. And he says, look, I’ll set up your server for you and you can just take a look around and we’ll do a demo. And that was the first time I saw.

[00:29:45] That’s where the real power is, when you can actually just get somebody in there and then show them what they can do. Everybody’s face is light up. Mm-hmm. like as soon as you get in a voice channel with somebody, they go, you mean I could help somebody with their software just by having them share their screen and then we can look at it together?

[00:30:03] And I’m like, yeah. And it’s that easy. and people just absolutely freak out. And so I, I told these, these young gentlemen in my community, I said, look, we’ll set up the server. I’ll invite some of my key people in. Mm-hmm. , you know, the people I’m in the big demographic with. And now if they like it, we’ll do it.

[00:30:23] And brought a few of them over. I brought about 10 people and they said, just poke around, chat amongst yourselves, like, no pressure. Just like, let’s see what it, what it does. And within weeks, they were in love as well, because of the ease of the communication, the joy of being, ha being able to have not only the asynchronous, asynchronous texting or being able to pop into a voice channel just like that.

[00:30:47] No links, no passwords. You just, you just click on a button, suddenly you’re ready to video with somebody that just won everybody over. And then you can always use the argument. Remember that time you learned Facebook? Right? Yeah. Remember that time you learned how to, you know, use your dial-up connection.

[00:31:08] Do you remember learning MySpace? You don’t remember those things. You think that it wasn’t like you rolled outta the womb knowing how to use these things, but the skills are generalized, right? Clicking or or, or alt clicking in, in Mac. Like all of those rules stay the same and you’d be surprised at how quickly you’ll acquire the skills.

[00:31:29] It’s been fantastic and I’ve, I’ve loved the journey. I’ve loved learning .

[00:31:34] Jeff Sieh: So Ian, there is hope for us. So, yeah,

[00:31:37] Ian Anderson Gray: much hope. I think it’s, it’s, as you, as you get older, I, I’m just talking about you here, Jeff, cuz obviously I’m still 21, but like, for, for older people like you, it’s, I think it’s easier to become more overwhelmed, whereas like young kids, they’re just, they, they almost like those, those, those obstacles cuz they, it’s like problem solving.

[00:31:57] So I suppose like it. Just a kind of just a follow up question, Keeley, which is like, well, if people are feeling overwhelmed, how, how, what should they do? They might wanna set up their own server. What would be like a couple of points, simple points that they should like do to, to get started with this, to set up their own server?

[00:32:16] Keely Dunn: I think the Discord server setup process is actually really nicely laid out. Just take your time and read the screens. When it says, when it asks you, do you wanna set up a set of rules that people have to agree to before they get into the server? Say, yes, do that thing. I think by making sure that you have just a very simple reaction role that somebody has to click on an emoji, and that automatically gives them access to a role that then opens up the rest of the server, I think is very important.

[00:32:49] If you have your server and. at everyone is the default role. Mm-hmm. at everyone can see everything. That’s when you can run into trouble with bots coming in and spamming and, and, and that sort of thing. If you can take that one simple step, then you are set. And I mean, let’s face it, there’s a reason I’m here and it’s because I translate from Discord into creator language and I’m here to help people get through that.

[00:33:19] There are videos on my YouTube channel where I go through creating your account, setting up your server for the first time. Very simple, simple little steps. But I also really think that hands-on learning is the best way to learn any kind of software. And I’m there to help people go through the process and kind of hold their hands, but also have a lot of fun, you know, making jokes in the process and, and, and working through, setting up a server.

[00:33:45] And once you’ve done it, you’re like, oh. . Well, that was easy. . I didn’t need Keely at

[00:33:50] Jeff Sieh: all. . So for you guys who are listening on the podcast, you can get more information about Keely. If you go to Discord for creators.com, that’s, that gets you all her information. And I’ve seen her you know, helping all sorts of people.

[00:34:05] I mean, she’s, like I said, she’s helped Ecamm set up. They’re they’re Discord server. So if you want to see what that looks like, go to Ecamm dot tv slash discord. That’s Ecamm tv slash discord. They are also the sponsor of the show. You can find out more about that at socialmedianewslive.com/ecamm slash Ecamm.

[00:34:21] Thank you for letting for, for them, you know, doing this and again, introducing us to people like Keeley. She’s, they’ve also, like Doc Rock has used her. We’ve had Doc on a couple weeks ago all, you know, talking, and that’s how I was like, I gotta get Keeley on it. I’ve just, I gotta do it because he talked about her so much and, and how he’s building his community.

[00:34:39] Using Discord. Mark Schaffer has a Discord channel. I mean, this is why I I’ve really started to get on the Discord bandwagon is because so many people that I, I really trust and have learned throughout many, many years from, are starting to use it for their communities. And so that’s what I want to talk about next is like, I’m all about community.

[00:34:58] I really want to do a better job with it. I want, I think that’s the future because like I said, where I think we’re going social’s going more towards entertainment, but I wanna talk about like building a community with Discord. So we’ve teased a little bit, and you’ve talked a little bit about this thing that they just rolled out a couple weeks ago, which is this, this mo they have their own subscription model.

[00:35:16] So how is that different than the Patreon model? And could you, could you have different levels as well? Like you could, like you do on Patreon? Because I know that’s attractive for a lot of people. You can get people in at the, like the $5, Hey, I’m just supporting the show. And then they, you can kind of gradually let them in.

[00:35:32] Can you do the same thing with this new thing with this score? Yes,

[00:35:35] Keely Dunn: you can. You’ve got the option for three tiers. And so far other tools, like the ones that I’m using, like me six, because remember I’m in Canada, so I don’t get the, all the joy of the early releases to the Americans. You can set up the, the three tiers there and you can do things like, yes, I am a supporter of the show at 3 99 a month.

[00:35:59] Mm-hmm. . And they get a special little icon, which again, or emoji and people love that kind of stuff. And maybe they get one channel, a private channel that they get to talk in or have access to you or whatever the case might be. And then you can build more intense levels after that. And that’s what I’ve done in FH umpires.

[00:36:17] So I have, I have basically three levels of membership. One of them is just rolling out, I’m, I’m waiting for Discord membership to come out to mm-hmm. . Canada, and then I’m going to just use that built-in feature. But that is just a pri, that’s just a support level. Very, very small. And then the next level is you get access to some resources that are on my website.

[00:36:41] So I control all that through WordPress. It’s all along complicated thing. I like to make things hard, and they also get invited occasionally to things that the highest level of members get access to, which are things like watch parties where we sit and we watch a game together in a voice channel, and we talk about what’s happening in the game.

[00:37:03] And so I’m educating field hockey umpires and I’m saying things like, Hey, did you see the position that that umpire moved into? That’s why they were able to make that call right there. And oh, notice that call, that didn’t quite go the the way that it should have. That’s gonna come back to bite them in about three, two.

[00:37:19] There it is, . And, and so we, we go through right in real time and it’s super, super powerful. We do our mentoring meetings in there. I do private debriefs where if an umpire has a match and they, that they were in and they want some private coaching, we can do that and it’s so, so f. easy. And then you’ve got the private text channels where everybody talks amongst themselves and they get to build stronger relationships with each other because they’re building all these touchpoints.

[00:37:48] So I’m, I’m looking at one right now, off on the side. I’m super focused on this right now, but you know, I just have this off on the side, right? And people are like, oh, this is what, this is the match. I’m umpiring this weekend. And somebody’s like, oh, I’m gonna come and watch. And, and that, that’s magical.

[00:38:03] These are people that didn’t know each other until they came into this server. And I love that journey for them. It is just so much fun.

[00:38:11] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. Ian, you’re up. I’m not, I got one. I’m, I’m dying to save. I’m gonna let you have a chance.

[00:38:15] Ian Anderson Gray: Go ahead. Well, I’ve got, I’ve got a quick credit. It’s not on the list, but it, it’s just, since we’re talking about community mm-hmm.

[00:38:21] like, what I see a lot of people doing, and I’ve done this myself, is I get excited about a new technology. It could be Discord, it could be something else, and Oh yeah, that’s where I wanna build my community. And then I forget. Well, like, , I should have been focusing on building my community first. Should I, or so like, that’s like my question to you, like, should we be, before we set, set out a discord server, should we already have a community and a cohesive community because they might be scattered across all the different socials before we set out a Discord server?

[00:38:51] Or what should we do? What, what’s your view on that?

[00:38:56] Keely Dunn: So there should and can. And I think if you are the kind of person who might get discouraged, if you open up a Discord server and it doesn’t take off right away and it takes six months a year for any real sort of measurable buildup and, and increase in activity engagement and that flipping into actually leads getting taken up on monetization, then you want to prioritize building up your audience first.

[00:39:25] So on all the discovery platforms, I mean, I’ve been doing FH umpire since 2006. Mm-hmm. , it’s been a long time. It’s taken me a long time to figure out what people are looking for from me, what can I give to them? And because there’s nobody else in my space, I don’t have any role models of people that, you know, I can look up to and say, oh, so how did you monetize your community?

[00:39:46] That’s right. Like, yeah, it’s never happened before. So what I. Felt made this server a success. The one that I’m pointing at on my third monitor is that I did have, I had a strong network of audience on the discovery platforms. I had been live Streaming already for probably a year and a half, and so I had somewhat of a community, but it’s still, I think that’s still more of an audience because they don’t, on YouTube, they can, you know, live chat.

[00:40:20] Mm-hmm. and sort of interact with each other, but they don’t really get to know each other until there’s a place that they can go to where they could all just like jam in and come join you in a voice channel, and then they can talk amongst themselves. They can go into the off topic and squirrel out about whatever it is.

[00:40:37] The weather in England obviously is a big topic and off topic all the time. and. . And, and so I think you need to start with what, what am I producing? What is, what are the things that I’m giving out of value into the community? Build that audience and then start bringing some of those people into your community.

[00:40:57] And you might start really small with maybe an advisor’s group. People are, who are like super keen on your material, who have things to offer back to you. Cuz that’s the other thing about community is people are giving back to you in the questions that they’re asking, the information they’re giving you.

[00:41:15] All that feedback, all that knowledge, it’s, it just blows my mind. So you can start with the, the notion that this is gonna be small and this is just gonna be my, my favorite people. And you can just invite them and just say, , I think you guys are smart umpires. Come in and talk to me and let’s just talk amongst ourselves a little bit.

[00:41:34] And you can be part of that, and then you start inviting everybody else in and build slowly. But if you establish the culture, whatever culture you want, but for me it’s around fun. It’s around Schitt’s Creek gifts, and it’s around knowing your umpiring inside and out and being incredibly nerdy and passionate about it.

[00:41:56] With that culture, it’s, it blossoms very well and, and organically, and people start taking on leadership roles in that place, which makes it easier for you as the leader to not necessarily have to be the one driving all the content all the time.

[00:42:10] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. So I, awesome. I’ve got some, some once again, I’m gonna follow up with, do you have questions?

[00:42:15] I have so excited. I love this. This is why I love this show. I hope you guys realized how much I love this show. And by the way, let us know if you think we should start a discord. A server for this show. I would be interested to see if people would like something like that where they could dive and, and talk about stuff.

[00:42:31] Cuz I, as you can tell, I like to talk. The question I have, it’s like, is there a certain, and Ian kind of touched on it, but is there a certain number you need to have before you start a show? And then let’s say you have 5,000 emails. Should you send a list to say, Hey, I’m starting a server and send it all to your list and try to get ’em in that way?

[00:42:51] I mean, what are some like numbers of like, if you had this, I would do this and if you had this many already, I would do this. I’m sure there’s kind of some, some different things you would recommend.

[00:43:01] Keely Dunn: Yeah, I was around the 5K mark on. Most of the social platforms, give or take, when I started my ill-fated Facebook group, which is what I replaced with my Discord server.

[00:43:13] Mm-hmm. , and that was the place that I was trying to give my membership value. And I just couldn’t get engagement. I couldn’t get pickup. But I felt like at that point I had enough people who had given me feedback as to what I could do for them. Mm-hmm. . So I don’t think it’s about numbers. I think it’s about whether you have had enough touch points with your people to understand what you can do for them.

[00:43:38] And if you are not sure, if you’re like, ah, I don’t, I don’t really know what they need from me, what kind of conversations can we have? What kind of services can I offer? If you’re not, at that point, you’re probably not ready for a community. Mm-hmm. , because you have to start a Discord server with a.

[00:43:54] Otherwise, it’s going to be a chore and it’s going to be an imposition on your community. But instead, you want it to be a place where they say, look at all the things I get by being here. I get to spend time with Keely. She’ll answer all my questions. There are some awesome people who will support me and listen to everything that I’m complaining about when the players are mad at me and I’m getting all this great information.

[00:44:23] If that’s something that you feel strongly you can offer, it doesn’t really matter about the number, but it, it matters about the, the maturation. So when I say I had to take all those years to figure out what I was gonna monetize, that’s because I hadn’t, I hadn’t gotten that vision in my head. I hadn’t gotten enough feedback, and the community didn’t know what they wanted from me.

[00:44:46] because nobody’s done this before. So it wasn’t like they were saying, oh, if only we had another X, Y, Z person, Keeley could do that thing. That would be great for us. Mm-hmm. I taught them slowly, eventually what I could do for them. And they were like, yeah, that thing, no, not that other thing. So mm-hmm.

[00:45:02] That’s h that’s how that works out, I think.

[00:45:04] Jeff Sieh: Gotcha. That’s a gr that’s a great advice. There’s one, there’s a question from our Facebook user. I’m not sure why the name didn’t come through, but I thought it was really good and we kind of touched on it, but I’d really like, cause I’m sure you get this question all the time.

[00:45:17] They started to, they, they were Discord for a while and I haven’t used it in a while. I was in some groups for a couple of years. It became a bit overwhelming for me. So I know Ian had the same thing he talked about, like, it just seems sometimes like discord is so overwhelming especially if you’re, you’re thinking about using it.

[00:45:34] What do you tell those people?

[00:45:37] Keely Dunn: The first step is control your notifications. So if you haven’t gone through a server and said, first of all, . I only by default wanna be notified when I am at mentioned, mm-hmm. . So whether it’s my name or my role that gets put in a post. If you haven’t set that on that server, you gotta do that right away.

[00:46:00] And then you can go through a server and you can mute channels. You can mute entire categories of things that you are not interested in so that you aren’t seeing these, you know, glowing. You’ve gotta go check this badge. You can turn that off for yourself so that the server becomes smaller. in, in terms of scope for you.

[00:46:23] Mm-hmm. . If you’re a server owner, that’s something that you wanna provide to people. So when people come into my FH umpire server, I say, okay, here are the automatic roles that you’re gonna get applied depending on what level of membership you are. And then, hey, are you interested in, are you a coach? Are you a media person?

[00:46:41] They can click on a. and that will open up a different section just for them so that they can partake in conversations that are relevant to them. Are you somebody who’s interested in web three? I’m gonna push FH Empires into Web three, and I wanna gather the people around me who are interested in that as well.

[00:46:58] So they can help me do that. And they click on a button and boom, they, they, they can open that up. So there’s a mix of you taking responsibility as a user and turning off the parts of a server that you don’t wanna see, and then as a good responsible fund server owner that you give them people the ability to turn things off for themselves and just literally hide vanish areas that they are not interested.

[00:47:25] Jeff Sieh: Very cool that, that’s worth the price of a emission right there, folks. So that’s

[00:47:28] Ian Anderson Gray: a great tip, and like suppressing the, the at everyone and, and all those kind of things. I, I mean, I’ve just got a follow up question with on that because I’m probably one of those people that, that finds it a little bit overwhelming.

[00:47:39] I’ve done the notifications thing, which is a great tip, but it’s, it’s the feeds, particularly if you are in a, like a really vibrant community and you go in and you think, oh my goodness, where do I start? I’ve, I’ve, I, I’ve only logged it, logged in and checked it an hour ago, and now there’s like 50 more messages.

[00:47:53] And it seems like a, the, when people respond to a previous message, it will show you the little message and then what they’re responding to. So it feels very different to like a, to slack with, with the way you can res the replies will appear just underneath further up, if you know what I mean.

[00:48:11] Mm-hmm. , is there any way to change the way that looks? Or, or if not, how would you suggest that? , if we are finding, finding it overwhelming to, as a consumer in a, in a, in a, in a server, how, how do we go about kind of doing that on a daily basis?

[00:48:26] Keely Dunn: Yeah, I’ll, I’ll break that into two parts and honestly, this question of overwhelm is is something that I’m dealing with now because I’ve been doing this for a while.

[00:48:36] I am absolutely voracious in my desire for knowledge about these things. So I’ve, I’ve joined, I think I’m up to about 75 servers right now, which is ridiculous. Also, I’m getting into web three, so there’s a whole bunch of stuff. I mean, it’s nuts, and I’ve felt that same sort of, holy crap. One of the best ways to control your experience when you come in, you’ve heard of declaring inbox bankruptcy, right?

[00:49:01] Mm-hmm. , mm-hmm. , where you just, you’re like, oh, I have a thousand emails in this, in. I’m just gonna grab them all. I’m gonna shove them into the archive of Gmail, or I’m just gonna delete them. I’m declaring bankruptcy. If it’s that important, you’re gonna email me again and you delete everything. You can come into a server and the first thing that you do when you see it, and maybe there’s just all these channels and and things that have unread messages, you right click on the server, you select Mark, all is read, and you declare message bankruptcy, and then you get a fresh start.

[00:49:35] So I do that all the time. I have joined a bunch of technical discords servers that are hosted by bots, and I need to be able to go into them very quickly if I have a problem with a bot, but I don’t need to see everybody else’s question, right? So I just have them all in one folder called Development Bots, and I right click on the folder, select mark, all is read.

[00:50:00] Boom, it’s gone. And it’s. . It’s liberating. It’s so powerful to be able to do that. So that’s what you, you can do from a user perspective. And then, Ian, your question about how replies are organized, that’s one of the features that is very strong with forum channels. So if you establish a channel as a forum, it then has things organized like we used to on the bulletin boards.

[00:50:27] Mm-hmm. , where there was an original post, right. And then all the replies went under that thing. So as a server owner, that’s something that you wanna think about, especially for those topics where there tend to be a cluster of very valuable replies and follow-ups and explorations, but that’s very, you want to contain that in order to keep that valuable.

[00:50:48] And so if you set up your q and a, for example, as a forum, which is something that I’ve done on all of my servers, that makes it so much easier to keep everything together. And then when that topic is done, after it’s been a inactive for a certain number of, it could be 24 hours, it could be up to seven days, depending on the level of your server.

[00:51:08] It’ll just hide. You can still find it when you search, but it’s not sitting out there. So you don’t have 70 forum original posts to, to think about. Mm-hmm. , they’re just,

[00:51:19] Jeff Sieh: they’re just gone. So is, so it sounds like there’s different types of posts that you can make on Discord. So you said there’s a forum and there’s kind of the other ones too.

[00:51:27] So it almost sounds like Reddit a little bit like you’d have a topic and then reply. Very, very cool. Alright, well we are getting at the end of our time, and I still have a whole nother show worth of questions, but the one question I want to end, not in on a, like a wet blanket thing, cause I want to come back to some other stuff, but what I know people are worried, like, listen, I invested in Facebook groups and see they’re, they’re not valuable as much as they used to be.

[00:51:55] I’m scared that if I spend all this time, especially with all the cool stuff I can do with discord, , what if it goes away or gets bought by somebody else, or that shuts down, or it’s bought by China and then the US kicks everybody out, whatever happens. You know, like what, is there a way to offboard people, like, hey, like you mentioned email addresses.

[00:52:12] Is there a way like, Hey, we’re moving, we’re going over here now because I know that we, we all need an out now because we’ve seen what happens to the lot of these platforms. Will there, is there an out in discord if we want to not let our, you know, flush our whole community down the toilet and have to move somewhere else?

[00:52:28] Keely Dunn: So when we were talking about collecting the email addresses before, I think that’s your strongest strategy. Okay. And that’s something that you have to take upon yourself. And excuse me, for example Al Johnson, I’m, I help him with his take one tech server. Mm-hmm. . And what he did is he had. , I don’t know, 40, 50 people in there.

[00:52:49] And when he realized, oh, I, I know that some of these people I have their email addresses of, but some of them I don’t. He just asked, he just said, Hey, do you mind just like clicking on this link and filling out a form that connects your username to your email address? Like, is that cool? And. , everybody did it right?

[00:53:07] Because they’re, they’re already just like neck deep and we love ous. You know, they, they’re like, we’re cool with that. We know that you’re not going to abuse it. We know that we’re gonna get value from this experience. So yeah, we’ll do that. So if you just sort of shift that mindset, okay. People who are coming here to my community aren’t just kicking tires.

[00:53:28] They can kick tires on Facebook. They can date us a little while on YouTube. Live streams. You know, they, right. That’s how they’re getting to know us. By the time that they’re coming into your server, they should be people who are really invested in you and invested in what they can, they can get from you in this community space.

[00:53:46] So you always wanna collect email addresses and. When it comes to discord going away, well, everything goes away . I know everybody’s saying. I know. Oh, like five years ago we were like, Facebook’s forever. It’s never going anywhere. And like, how wrong are we? Because it’s dying in front of our eyes. Twitter is dying in front of our eyes.

[00:54:10] So you’re always going to be thinking about being flexible. Right? And plastic. And you know, Ian, when you talk about us all aging, cuz we all are aging, the story we tell ourselves is that this is hard to learn. If we revise that story and say we have a vast bank of experience of things that we’ve learned, prove positive we can learn more things.

[00:54:37] let’s just learn another thing. How cool is that? And we will make our connections faster cuz we have those experiences. So shift that mindset a little bit, and I think you’re gonna be set up well to take advantage of what Discord has, and then in 10 years time, you’ll be ready for the next thing.

[00:54:53] Jeff Sieh: That is a great and healthy way to look at things.

[00:54:56] Ian, I’ll let you have the last question because I could keep going. So, wow.

[00:55:00] Ian Anderson Gray: Well, I mean, I, I think I this word now, aren’t you? That’s what’s, yeah, I mean, I’m, I’m, I mean, I was converted before, but I think what you said before about communities and setting up your community and, and having a, knowing what your purpose is, it before you go into the technology, which we can all get excited about, it’s sorting those bits out.

[00:55:20] Those are the difficult bits. It’s that deep work and I think you’re so right there. So, but yeah, join, join Keely’s Discord server and follower and you got all these YouTube videos. So that’s where I think people should start. Don’t you, don’t you think Keely.

[00:55:35] Keely Dunn: Yep. Absolutely. You just, you just gotta start.

[00:55:38] That’s, that’s how Neils and Martine from the Netherlands got me is they just got me in there. They got me to sign up for an account and they showed me what it could do, and I just went, oh, let’s go. This looks fun. And, and, and just the ideas and the creativity that, that it’ll inspire. That’s the fun part.

[00:56:00] That’s why we love tech is because when we learn something new, it, it just creates all these other points and connections and we start thinking of new ways we can serve our communities. So this is, this is just one way to take advantage of it, but it’s a super cool way.

[00:56:16] Ian Anderson Gray: And podcast listeners are missing out on the pure joy on Keely’s face.

[00:56:20] That’s right. So you’ll have

[00:56:21] Jeff Sieh: to come back and watch. I was, and I didn’t mention this, but I think one thing is connecting with podcasts. You know, that’s, there’s always been a breakdown with building community, with podcasts, and I think discord is a great way to do that. If you have a podcast creating one of those.

[00:56:35] So anyway, that’s a whole nother show, but I wanna give a shout out to Red, who’s been making some great comments. He says to take advantage of those connections. And also he says, I expect a discord Ian. So, you’re gonna have to get on top of that after the

[00:56:49] Keely Dunn: show. That’s me time. I think this is a promise.

[00:56:51] I think you guarantee this.

[00:56:53] Jeff Sieh: I agree. It’s happening. So, Keeley, before we wrap things up, I wanna let I want you to have you have a chance to tell everybody where to find you. Those people listen on the podcast, all that. So what’s the best place to find Keeley Dunn and your YouTube channel? All that.

[00:57:07] Keely Dunn: Head over to Discord for creators.com. All the links to the usual places are there. My YouTube is there with some long streams where I go step by step through the features, for example, and how to set up your account and things like that. So it’s a great place to go with your just starting and then joining my server is a great place to come because I am so ready to answer any question that you have in there.

[00:57:33] We can hop in a voice channel, I can show off some things that maybe you haven’t seen or don’t know how to do, and that’ll inspire you when you are looking at building your own communities. So that’s Discord for creators.com/ds. Standing for Discord server .

[00:57:48] Jeff Sieh: Very cool. Thanks everybody. So much. Thanks for Keeley for a great show.

[00:57:52] We gotta do this again because like I said, there’s a whole nother show of questions I have. I wanna give a big shout out to Jim and Gary and Reg, everybody who showed up today asked some great questions. Thank you to Ian. Ian, where can people find out about all things? Ian Anderson Gray, if they want, get on your discord server.

[00:58:10] Ian Anderson Gray: Well, not yet cuz I don’t have one yet, but I have carelessly scattered myself across the interwebs and the socials. Just search for my name, Ian Anderson Gray. And of course my, my blog is at iag me and my podcast is at iag me slash podcast. So, do follow me there and I’d love to.

[00:58:26] Jeff Sieh: Connect with you.

[00:58:27] Awesome. And I appreciate Ian coming on at a late notice to be my amazing co host and ask some great questions. I wanna do a big shout out to my wife, who probably is not watching, but I wanna do it anyway. This is our anniversary today, 27 years of marriage. I love you, babe. Thank you for letting me do crazy stuff like this show.

[00:58:45] But 27 years is pretty, pretty cool. So I wanna give a shout out to that. And with that, I wanna also give a shout out. It’s not as as important, but it’s important as to our friends over at Ecamm. You find out more about them at socialmedianewslive.com/ecamm slash Ecamm and make sure you go check out the, the server that Keeley put together at Ecamm dot tv slash discord.

[00:59:04] Check it out. Join that. It’s amazing community. I’m telling you the people over at Ecamm, they know how to do community. It’s a great example to look at. Make sure to go follow them over there. And with that, we’ll see you guys next week. Bye every.

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