[00:00:00] Jeff Sieh: Welcome to Social Media News Live I’m Jeff Sieh and you’re not…

[00:00:04] Erik Fisher: And I’m Eric Fisher. And this is the show that keeps you up to date on what’s happening in the world of social media.

[00:00:10] Jeff Sieh: Today, we are joined by Christine Gritman and we’re going to explore how you can build your brand on Twitter, as well as some of the newest changes and experiments that’s been going on Twitter.

[00:00:20] So Twitter kind of give us and Twitter, take it away. Remember fleets, little sad tier we’re going to cover today. We’re going to be covering Twitter’s testing, new communities feature and what that means for brands. When we talk about super follows, what exactly that is and who is eligible, Twitter reactions, wanting more options than that Heartlight well, you may have more options coming your way soon and also the new Instagrammy layout that has been going around.

[00:00:47] So we’re going to be breaking it down by Twitter, community, building Twitter, monetization strategies, and general Twitter updates. Christine, thank you so much for joining us. I know you’re traveling and doing some stuff. I appreciate you popping by today.

[00:01:00] Christine Gritmon: Thank you for having me. And you know what? This means that it’s, today’s not a waste of makeup.

[00:01:05] Cause I’ve got two shows in a row here today.

[00:01:10] I get to relax all weekend long

[00:01:12] Jeff Sieh: I glued on my beard. So I was, I know how long it takes for some of that stuff. My head for this Eric shaved, I said,

[00:01:19] Christine Gritmon: You do have the mustache wax.

[00:01:21] Jeff Sieh: That’s right. It’s, you once it’s earwax, but once you get pass the smell, it’s fine.

[00:01:25] I want to do some shout outs to our friend today. So yeah, he goes to the the podcast machine is chugging away at his right. And Sabrina, our friend Sabrina. Hello, it’s me Sabrina. Hello, Sabrina. It’s me, Jeff. Thank you so much for chiming in as always. But let’s go ahead. If you guys don’t know who Christina.

[00:01:44] Is, she is amazing. She and Christine Gritman empowers professionals to step into their personal brands in a bigger, bolder way on social media. And you can do it and she’ll teach you how she spoken on stages worldwide, and is a frequent expert guest on podcasts like this one, live streams, Twitter chats, and blog posts, as well as hosting her own weekly Twitter chat about brand and Live interview show right after this one.

[00:02:12] Let’s talk about brand. Christina, thank you so much for being here today. You’re so busy. Thank you for making the time for us.

[00:02:18] Christine Gritmon: Thank you so much for having me on this is

[00:02:20] Jeff Sieh: great. Very cool.

[00:02:22] Erik Fisher: Christine, you obviously are already really active on Twitter and you’ve got a Twitter chat you’ve been doing for a while.

[00:02:28] How has hosting your own Twitter chat helped you grow your brand?

How has Twitter chats helped grow your brand?

[00:02:34] Christine Gritmon: Well, it’s interesting because participating in other people’s Twitter chats helped grow my brand for a long time. Madalyn Sklar, his Twitter smarter is certainly a classic. One of, one of the biggest Twitter chats that there is, and it still is, and has been for awhile and others over the years.

[00:02:52] So I knew how much other people’s Twitter chats had enhanced my brand because it got me followers. I learned how to keep them after those spikes, by continuing to be relevant and interesting. I also learned how to maintain my spikes after events because I live tweet sessions and I learned how to keep those people.

[00:03:12] And I just learned that there’s a whole community out there who wants to help each other, learn how to do things better, especially in marketing Twitter. And so about a year ago, I was like, I was making this big shift to, Into, to go deeper into personal branding. And I changed my whole show.

[00:03:30] I had a live show before called Social. Yeah. Relaunched a new Live show called let’s talk about brand. And I said, you know what? Let’s get a Twitter chat going to every week on Tuesday, I have my chat about brands and it’s on the same specific element of branding. As my Friday live stream show, the chat has actually turned out to be way more popular, which I was not expecting, but it has brought just so many new people into my Twitter world.

[00:03:56] People tag, their friends, people see the hashtag trending and everybody is learning. That’s the best part. But the fact that I had been a participant in so many Twitter chats first meant that I had opinions over what I did and didn’t want in my own Twitter chat. So I think that also shows, I think it shows that I’m someone who understands the user experience of Twitter chats.

[00:04:18] And I think that’s why it has done so well. And that’s why it has helped me build my own kind of thought leadership. But it has helped build my personal brand as someone who not only knows about personal branding, but who’s also. Open and generous and wants to help everyone educate each other as a community.

[00:04:35] Jeff Sieh: Very cool. I have a question. This is a great question. And I think a lot of people feel this way, and this is from. He goes, Twitter was my first love, but then it grew cold. Can you help? I think that my issue as this is just too fast moving, am I too old? And Ian, you, if you’re too old, then I’m too old, but what do you say to, to Ian, Christine?

How to Re-engage an Old Twitter Account?

[00:04:56] Christine Gritmon: I feel the same way about Facebook actually for a long time. Such a Facebook diehard. I defended it through the Facebook pop Facebook apocalypse of January, 2018. I was all about raw Facebook. And in the past year in particular, I just Twitter’s where the low. For me. And I think a lot of it depends on what you’re going there for me, Twitter is about conversations.

[00:05:22] I learned that if I just wanted to post content for people to consume Twitter is perhaps not the best place, but once I got into conversations and embraced that element of Twitter, I found a lot of like-minded people. I’ve developed some great relationships and it’s because in my opinion, it’s a little easier to find commonality on Twitter than it is in some other places on Facebook.

[00:05:46] Facebook is too. Heavily algorithmic. It drowns out everything. And I understand why, again, I’m a big Facebook defender, but it means I don’t really see things that I don’t really connect with people the way I can on Twitter’s more open. There are fewer barriers to entry, so I can talk to anyone on there.

[00:06:03] We don’t have to be friends. We don’t have to know the same people, but if we do know the same people, it becomes that much easier to find each other and connect Twitter chats have been a great way to find people. I just feel there’s so many ways to get involved in those conversations that are already happening and to start conversations that will attract like-minded people on Twitter, more than on any other platform.

[00:06:24] But if you go on there expecting it to be a content platform, you will be.

[00:06:29] Jeff Sieh: Those are great tips. And, um, this is from our friend over on LinkedIn. Colin goes confirmed. Jeff is too old. Where is the boot? Where’s the boot button. I gotta put that on my stream deck there. So good to see you here.

[00:06:43] Colin. Dad’s

[00:06:44] Christine Gritmon: on Twitter and he’s 78.

[00:06:46] Jeff Sieh: Sieh take that Colin take that. That’s all I’m going to say. That’s really it. So I want to ask is I love Twitter chats when I know Eric and I, especially when we, gosh, I think when we first met, we did a lot of Twitter chats and we were on a, like buffer, had a great one and some of the other ones.

[00:07:02] And there were some tools that we used and I know some of them were went away, but the big thing with Twitter chats, and I want to pull up yours again, it’s the chat about brand. So guys go search that on Twitter after the show. What is, what is a good tool for, cause it’s like a fire hose when you do some of those really popular chats and I’m sure it’s like that with yours.

[00:07:21] Is there any tools that you recommend for people to manage Twitter?

Recommended Tools for Twitter Chat

[00:07:26] Christine Gritmon: So I’m going to mention a few, but I will say first and foremost, I don’t use any of them. What I do is I have three browser tabs open right next to each other. I have the profile of the person who’s running the chat. Cause sometimes you get cut off and all the other stuff.

[00:07:42] And you miss a question. So I like keeping that refreshed and I do this even when the person running the chat is myself. The other, the second tab is I follow the chat hashtag. To sort to latest, not to most popular, but to latest because I want to keep up on that and I keep refreshing that as well. And then the third one I have open is my own notifications.

[00:08:03] A lot of people do this with different kind of columns on tweet deck. That’s a very popular tool for Twitter chats. I found tweaked deck didn’t refresh quickly enough for my tastes. I find brides browser tabs, a little faster on the refresh. And then also if you are using a schedule or I know HootSweet also has the ability to things like that.

[00:08:24] Agorapulse is great, but I haven’t personally looked at it in that type of view, but a lot of the schedulers that also have social monitoring will have the ability to do essentially what I said, or you have the person who is running the chat and then you have the chat hashtag that you’re following.

[00:08:43] And then you have your own notifications if you’re interested in that sort of thing. But I just do three browsers.

[00:08:48] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. That’s a great, those are great tips. So by the way, for you guys listening on the podcast, you can go find that at hashtag chat about brands. So make sure you follow her and Tuesdays at noon.

[00:08:59] So go check her out at Tuesdays at noon and chat about brand by the way. Uh, Sabrina says this, I just followed Christine on Twitter. Her branding is out of this world, so that’s awesome. Thank you for, and it is one of the things you also need to search look at all her gifts. If you go to you can search and pretty much I think any gift, directory

[00:09:22] Christine Gritmon: go to giphy.com/christine Gritman and you will see way more than you ever wanted to see of me just doing goofy stuff up in my

[00:09:31] Jeff Sieh: attic.

[00:09:31] I actually used one because I ran. Because I have a chat, a text-based signup to reminded people, and I actually was able to use one of your gifts to send out to all. So that was really cool. So I think that’s genius branding. So

[00:09:43] Christine Gritmon: Very cool and go back. And re-edit all of them though, because it seems like, oh, genius branding.

[00:09:48] But because I didn’t do it initially with branding in mind, I just did it for fun. I don’t have anything that tells you who I am. So I need to go back and edit in like a watermark of my Twitter handle or my name or something so that it actually serves me.

[00:10:02] Jeff Sieh: So Liz, our friend, Liz, Eric says, I just joined Twitter last week.

[00:10:07] I don’t know if that’s true or not. But Liz is on top of things. But if she does this show is for you Liz. So stick around, cause you’re gonna get a great, a bunch of stuff off of this, by the way, something that is for you. I want to tell you guys about our sponsors of this show, which is the amazing folks over at Ecamm.

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[00:11:14] Christine Gritmon: Last years leap Into Live from Ecamm was also a pretty killer and there’s a session for me in last years.

[00:11:19] Jeff Sieh: That’s right. That’s right. So yeah, so all the cool people are there.

[00:11:23] Go check it out at at Ecamm.tv/replay let’s get started with this because we got a ton to talk about. We’re going to be talking right about this new building. We’re going to be, this whole thing is going to be building a community on, on Twitter, this first section. And we’re going to be talking about this new Twitter communities, which is really interesting.

New Twitter Communities

[00:11:45] Jeff Sieh: So the short of it is these communities were quite similarly to the way, groups on Facebook and Reddit subreddit work. So once a person joins a specific community, they’re able to share their tweets with not only their followers, but also members of the community who can like, or reply to the tweet sent by them who can then also like any other group.

[00:12:04] So this community will have a few moderators who will set some ground rules accordingly and allow people in the community, which are open to all Twitter users. And the option also allows people to create their own communities freely. Now Twitter is also working to improve the access to the communities by adding its handled to the center of the main navigation bar and it’s mobile application.

[00:12:24] But it’s only available now on iOS. And on the website, but not on the Android version yet. So this is rolling out to just, yeah, I know. To select people. And the interesting thing about this is these tweets and these communities are public, but the replies will be limited to other community members. You know, we talked about this and the people who can create a community right now is just a select few that they’ve rolled out this test to, it’s going to eventually open up to a bunch of different people.

[00:12:56] What do you think of this whole community thing? Is this something that you’re going to use, with your Twitter chat? Are you going to start like when this rolls out, Christine, what are your thoughts? As a, a branding expert, how can businesses use this community once it rolls out to everybody?

How Can Businesses Use Twitters New Communities Feature?

[00:13:13] Christine Gritmon: It’s interesting because some people over the years have referred to Twitter as a dumpster fire because there’s. There aren’t gates between things it’s pretty open to everyone. And so sometimes that results in some people you know, getting a little messy. So this is yet another way to actually curate your Twitter experience to keep it relevant.

[00:13:38] My Twitter is not a dumpster fire because I follow great people. And so that’s what shows up on my feed. It got a little messy at times last year when I started dipping into politics a bit, but I’ve stopped that and now it’s just a happy place. So Twitter is what you make of it. This is a further way to, to.

[00:13:53] It seems like a natural continuation of the lists feature. Yeah. There’ve been Twitter lists forever where you can identify certain accounts by category and you can just look at those people and see what they’re up to. I have a list called chat about brand rockstars and anytime anyone even enters a single tweet into my chat, I add them to that list partially to make them feel a sense of belonging and a sense of sort of a buy-in to the chat cause they’re on those lists.

[00:14:21] But also because honestly, those are people who I know are interested in this topic. And so sometimes I just want to look at them. So this seems like a natural continuation of that to identify people who you want to develop relationships with, who you want to have conversations with. It can be very useful there.

[00:14:37] I don’t know exactly how communities are going to work in terms of if I’m going to want to make a specific chat about brand community or what personal branding will certainly be a topic. And it’s just one more way. On the sinister side, one more way for Twitter to keep you on the platform so they can serve ads to you and get data from you.

[00:14:56] But on the non sinister side, it is a great way to build community because Twitter becomes a place where people you like are having conversations you’re interested in. And this is yet another way to tailor that experience so that you have a good experience every time you come on.

[00:15:14] Jeff Sieh: That’s a great point.

[00:15:15] So yeah, I think they’re exciting. What about you, Eric? What are your thoughts?

[00:15:19] Erik Fisher: Yeah, my, my thoughts are this could get interesting. I, I’m trying to get my head around the whole Venn diagram of the tweets are public, but, and so people outside the community will be able to see it, but then also not reply.

[00:15:34] And that’s interesting to me, but maybe. It’s, it’s at least one more step towards visibility, especially if a lot of people are interacting with your tweets from that community. So I think it’s definitely worth trying out

[00:15:47] Jeff Sieh: for sure. Yeah.

[00:15:48] Christine Gritmon: Regarding the public private element of that. I think that bodes well or poorly, depending how on how well you’ve built your brand in terms of that means that on the plus side, people who are really interested can shout you off the rooftops you anything someone else says about you is always going to be more valuable than anything you could possibly say about yourself or your brand or your own expertise.

[00:16:13] So this could, if you play your cards right, be a fantastic source of user generated content of testimonials, of things of that sort for brands. It can be a good thing that it’s private yet public, because it means that people who are going to be speaking are people who are invested and interested and the people who are going to be Sieh.

[00:16:33] Is everybody. So that can be good, but that can also backfire, of course, if you are in that community and you are a bad actor in that community, that means that it can really blow you up publicly, so proceed with caution.

[00:16:47] Jeff Sieh: So I think it’s interesting because that was, I’ve helped some brands before when they have a paid Facebook group or a fade con a paid community somewhere where, you pay a certain amount of money and you get in there.

[00:16:59] And the problem has always been, is like, it’s hard to show how great that community is, outside of that walled garden and being able to do this where people can see what’s going on inside of the community, but are able to talk is a really interesting take on things that I think if you, if brands do it right, it’ll be a great way to look.

[00:17:18] Hey, look at this community, the brands in there talking, they’re sharing ideas, all this stuff, it’s public. But if you want to respond and have. Get into the conversation. You need to join that community. I think it’s a great way to build communities quickly. It’s also just like to your point, Christine, if brands are in there and just link dumping, then people are going to see listen there’s no, why would I need to join this community?

[00:17:39] Because there’s no value in there anyway. So once again, the cream is going to rise to the top. So I think it’s really interesting how they’re, they’re able to do this. And then the privacy thing is also really interesting how eventually this will all shake up. Couple points. Colin has a great point here.

[00:17:54] He says that over from LinkedIn, he goes, if these communities end up being anything like subreddits, it’s going to be a big place where people hang out. So what are your thoughts on that?

[00:18:05] Christine Gritmon: Yeah, again, I think it’s a way for Twitter to get people, to spend more time on the platform, because you’re able to curate that experience.

[00:18:13] I know our friend, Brian Fanzo calls Twitter, the unfiltered fire hose, and this is a way to filter that fire hose and make it a water fountain, of filtered water.

[00:18:23] Jeff Sieh: That’s a great visual I love that.

[00:18:25] Christine Gritmon: It’s cool. It’s delicious. It’s hydrating. It’s not hitting you in the face and making you feel like you’re being waterboarded.

[00:18:33] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. That’s why she builds brands. Folks. That great word picture she does. So Eric, let’s talk about this next thing, which is still inside of communities talked about that these Twitter reactions. So tell us what these are. You’re the ones who, who brought this to my attention.

Twitter Testing New Reactions

[00:18:47] Erik Fisher: So Twitter, we saw this happen a long time ago on Facebook, I think initially, and then LinkedIn also It’s still an option in different places on like maybe in DMS replies on Instagram.

[00:19:01] But what I’m talking about here is basically having the option of which reaction you’re going to give, not just a but also all the different faces, so emoji reactions, et cetera beyond just alike. And so Twitter is testing this out right now, where they’ve got faced with the tears of joy or clapping hands or the crying face or the heart.

[00:19:24] And the Twitter saying that they might expand this to users in more countries, depending upon the response. My thinking is. I’m questioning. Is this a good idea? Are people set on? I remember for a long time it was a star and then they switched it to a heart and it was like, oh, instead of book, is this the whole marking versus endorsement or liking debate that happened?

[00:19:49] I don’t know how many years ago now, two, three, something like that. We kind of got over that. Everybody made their peace with it, but I think having multiple reactions may give us wiggle room to not just bookmark, but maybe, I’m, I’m not liking someone. Especially if it’s like simple, I want to show sympathy.

[00:20:11] I’m not, I don’t want to like the tweet I want to like, you know,

[00:20:13] Jeff Sieh: Your dog died, you don’t want to like it.

[00:20:15] Erik Fisher: Yeah. You know what, in fact, I think one of the best things that happened early in the pandemic was Facebook coming out with the one that was like the heart with the layers, the care one. And so having that option really then gave the ability to do that on Facebook to to empathize without endorsement or, Aw tragedy, or heart.

[00:20:38] I love your tragedy. No. Or just go to the negative with sad. Yeah. But what do we, what do you guys think about this? How do you think about, is, is, does this matter? Or is it too little too late? What

[00:20:51] Jeff Sieh: say. Christine. What are your thoughts?

[00:20:55] Christine Gritmon: I think it matters for the reasons that you said, which is sometimes you don’t want to like something.

[00:21:00] So I think it will result in greater engagement. First of all, because a lot of times we were like, I don’t want to like that. So they just swipe by it. Cause there’s nothing else to do unless you have a comment. So this is another way to, to engage, which is nice. It’s a continuation of what they’re doing in Twitter spaces.

[00:21:17] Twitter spaces have had emojis for a while now. In fact, I’m really annoyed. They don’t have the red heart every single week. I co-host the Twitter space about spaces with metal and Sklar on Thursdays every week. I complain about the lack of. In there. I want more reactions, but I think that’s going to be good.

[00:21:35] But I also think that algorithmically, it will be good the same way. As on Facebook, I reaction is valued more than a because it shows a little bit of extra thought and it shows a little bit of extra insight. People have taken that extra second to make a choice versus just clicking the like button.

[00:21:53] So I think it will also work well in terms of informing Twitter’s algorithm, how people feel about different things.

[00:21:59] Jeff Sieh: That’s a great point because I think one of the things that I really, the, Eric was saying, do you use the like button as a bookmark thing where you can go back and do it?

[00:22:10] There’s not really a way now. Use it to Hey, there’s a bookmark, actually, I don’t even use it. But use it? I do. Oh Sieh see. I don’t even know what’s going on. That’s why I have expert guests on, but just this show is for you. This is for me. I am learning, I’m taking notes. So the, the question is.

[00:22:32] Would the heart go away? Would it go or would it be like rolled in with more, what do they have? Like the heart and then the laugh and like those other things. That’s the international,

[00:22:41] Christine Gritmon: I better keep up heart. I’m obsessed with the red heart emoji. And not just because it’s red it’s because generally I have a positive presence on Twitter and I love loving things.

[00:22:51] And so I’m going to be annoyed. If that heart goes away, it better be one of the options.

[00:22:55] Erik Fisher: This test, the heart is still listed as one of the options.

[00:22:59] Jeff Sieh: Okay. Okay. Let’s see. And Dustin agrees with you. I’ve dusted degrees with you. I’m at the lack of hearts and spaces to get the Twitter. This is a big Twitter spaces guy back to the community saying, cause I wanted to bring this up before we move on to our next part of the community section his answers.

[00:23:17] He’s surprised that Twitter hasn’t built their own Twitter chat platform into the system may be communities goes part of that way. What are you, what about that Christine? Would you have a Twitter chat inside of a community? Would that give you, I don’t know the benefit or versus the pros versus cons on that.

[00:23:37] Christine Gritmon: I haven’t really I’ll admit, I haven’t really had a good look at what the test for communities looks like. So I don’t know what the UI is really going to be, but I could see that absolutely making sense because you have an audience that has already self identified as belonging to a community as being interested in a topic.

[00:23:57] So I think that makes perfect sense. In fact, I wonder. To Ian’s point if that specifically were chats, we’ll move to,

[00:24:04] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, that would be cool. Who knows? But anything that helps build community on any platform I think is great. And to your point, yes, they’re doing it on purpose to keep people on the platform.

[00:24:14] And this may be like a big deal, especially like Colin’s point. If it’s going to be like a rent, a subreddit or something like that, that would keep people on.

[00:24:21] Christine Gritmon: It chould change the whole way we use Twitter. It can change the default Twitter behavior.

[00:24:24] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. So anyway, back, I want to throw this back at you. You go, so Ian, who is a big, he’s got a lot of followers on Twitter.

[00:24:32] He says he doesn’t have the ability to bookmark in Twitter. Is this only available to special people?

[00:24:37] Christine Gritmon: You just may not know.

[00:24:38] Erik Fisher: I mean, if Jeff didn’t know, he probably has it.

[00:24:43] Christine Gritmon: Yeah. I almost never use them. I’m looking at it on my phone now. So my phone, when I get a tweet, got the little thing to repeat the thing or the little up button, which is for caring.

[00:24:58] But if I, to that, then at the bookmark option, I don’t remember how to do it on desktop, but in honesty I rarely bookmark tweets, especially now that desktop has the option to schedule tweets for later. The main way that I would use bookmarks for tweets is less for my own reference to look at later and more for my own reference to share later when I’ve just tweeted something.

[00:25:21] And I don’t want to tweet something immediately. So a lot of times now I’ll just go on desktop and I will schedule that tweet to share at a later time. But but yeah, bookmarks are a very handy feature. I know that’s how it works on mobile. I’m not sure how it works on desktop, but it should be an option available to everybody.

[00:25:39] It’s just a little bit hidden. It’s not right there smacking you in the face at the bottom of the tweet.

[00:25:43] Jeff Sieh: Gotcha. Very cool. So now we know.

[00:25:46] Erik Fisher: I use it that same way. I will bookmark something, especially if I’ve just shared or retweet it or something I’ll hit the share and then bookmark so that I can go back into it later and then hit it again, the share button and send it over to Instagram to do Instagram stories.

[00:26:01] Now that native ability.

[00:26:02] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. Yeah, that’s cool. So patent

[00:26:05] Christine Gritmon: over here,

[00:26:09] Jeff Sieh: So our friend Pat Mills says she really likes the idea of communities on Twitter. She’ll be watching this, but here’s Dustin he’s on the cutting edge all the time. He goes, I got invited to my first community yesterday. The H he met UI is really basic.

[00:26:23] And so yeah, Dustin, I would love to if you have screenshots to that, drop them in for the people could see what it looks like. Yeah. And Ian, you are correct. This is the show to learn. Even the hosts learn things as they’re going on today. And speaking of learning our next community, update is Twitter is started to flag bots.

[00:26:45] And what does that mean? So what it means is that they’re introducing a new feature that will allow counts to self identity. Identify, sorry. Self-identify as bots by adding a label to their profile. And this feature is designed to help people better differentiate between automated accounts like bots that retreat, the News vaccine, where to go get vaccinated and other updates by those operated by human.

[00:27:10] It’s not however designed to help us identify bad bots, unfortunately, because I think that would be really cool. But this is like from like 2018 CEO, Jack Dorsey said during an, a Senate intelligent Senate intelligence community hearing that he believed that users had a right to know if they were speaking to a bot or human.

[00:27:30] So this has been in the works for awhile. I’m really interested. Have you seen any of these flagged bots in the wild yet? Christine?

[00:27:39] Christine Gritmon: I have not. I honestly didn’t know. That was a thing until we talked about this episode. I have not seen the bot situation. I understand it. I just really, something like that really relies upon.

[00:27:53] People’s self-reporting and I don’t think we can count on that. I don’t know if this feature is going to work as well as they’re expecting.

[00:28:02] Jeff Sieh: Oh, that’s a good point. So I was thinking that maybe you know, I get it for if you’re talking or making an appointment or something like that or like looking for, the reservations, I think even some airlines do like bots back at ya having that designation that you’re talking about that, I think most of us know, but I guess there’s, it’s always better to, have that label.

[00:28:24] What are your thoughts, Eric? You, you run into bottom-up.

[00:28:28] I

[00:28:28] Erik Fisher: wish that it included the ability to designate yourself as a good bot instead of a bad robot. And I think that yeah, in your example that you were just using with an airline, it’s like, how does it make me as a user feel when I’m interacting with an account that is auto replying to me, in the DMS or otherwise?

[00:28:53] If I know it’s automated, I’m going to be less likely to feel like, cause I don’t have a whole lot of confidence in chatbots to be quite honest. It’s eh, you can’t really help me if I’m the kind of person who’d rather call up and talk to a human. And and now here’s my age.

[00:29:11] I’d rather do that than like type questions into an automated thing when it doesn’t really, at least to my point, haven’t proven itself as reliable to understand what I’m saying. Let alone give me the answer I want to hear.

[00:29:24] Jeff Sieh: Okay. I think it’s anything that helps do that. And that will help communities.

[00:29:30] If you know that I mean, I know if my mom, we got on a Facebook bot and started talking to somebody, she would assume that it was real. She would, she would like if she got on a bot and even some of our friends who have like lead magnets, like if she’d got in one of those things, we know, cause we’re in marketing that it’s a, I’m getting put in a funnel and this is how we get our stuff.

[00:29:53] But a lot of people, I think don’t, and I think I hopefully that Facebook would do this kind of thing. Ian goes he’s with you, Eric Long, live the human. Yeah. Uh, the other thing, so before we move on to our monetization strategies at Twitter, I want to ask this question. What does Christine thinkers from Ian?

[00:30:12] What does Christine think of tools like Triber and tools that allow you to share other content? Are they useful tools or are they just spammy?

Are Twitter Tools That Allow Sharing of Content Worth It?

[00:30:20] Christine Gritmon: I don’t even know about those tools. I’m extremely human on my social media. I schedule very little, I use a Gora pulse each week to schedule a whole bunch of promotional posts for my show.

[00:30:34] And that is it. That is just so I can free up time so that I can engage. Oh. And I also schedule chat questions, but. I’m pretty much on and might it be better if I had a tool helping me curate content and helping me find things like that, it would help me save time. But the fact is I’m interested in social media, so I’m, AOK just finding it on Twitter because I’m following good sources.

[00:31:03] So I don’t have enough of an opinion on those tools to have an opinion on them. I don’t have enough awareness of them to have an opinion on them, but I would say just like with automation, any tool should really, any tool used on social media should be used in the service of getting you to better human interactions versus replacing human interactions.

[00:31:27] I think that’s true with automation. I think that’s true with curation tools. I think that it just needs to be in the service of making the human element better, more productive, taking it a little further along.

[00:31:41] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, I think that’s a great point. And in fact Sabrina says she always asks if you’re a real person, so maybe that’s why she goes, hi, it’s me Sabrina at the beginning.

[00:31:48] So we know that it’s not the Sabrina bot. That is that’s what a robot would sass that’s right, exactly. Now we know Sabrina is real, I’ve talked to her before, so yeah, that’s a great point. So let’s, let’s move on to our next section. We’re gonna be talking about some new Twitter monetization strategies, which everybody wants to know about.

[00:32:07] So Eric talked to us about the super follows. It sounds like a new Marvel movie, but talk about super follows.

Twitter Super Follows

[00:32:15] Erik Fisher: Yes, super follows. This is a way that creators can set a monthly subscription price and it varies you can be 2 99, 4 99, 9 99. And it provides fans with access to bonuses. Behind the scenes content of their choosing generally that’s like extra tweets or Q and A’s or interactions with other subscribers.

[00:32:45] So it’s like behind the scenes access that you’re paying for. And essentially Twitter’s opened up super follows to it. Super followers, super follows, sorry to a handful of creators. And they’re saying that there’s few fewer than a hundred creators right now that have access to this, but they’re looking, let’s see.

[00:33:06] So they’ve also got a bunch of different things to break down here in terms of what you’ve, what the requirements are. All that kind of different, good stuff. Like you’ve gotta be at least 18 years old. That’s good. Must have 10,000 active followers and have posted at least 25 tweets in the previous month.

[00:33:24] Again, I think most of us are safe in these regards active for at least three months, have a complete Twitter profile with. Must have a verified email address and account must be secured with two factor authentication. So those are all good things. I think that’s a, as a really good qualifications.

[00:33:42] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. So Christine, have you super followed anyone yet?

[00:33:47] Christine Gritmon: I have not yet. And it’s interesting because my first thought as many people’s first thoughts were, what would make you want to pay someone for their tweets? We’re used to getting tweets for free. Why on earth would we pay? But then I thought a little more and I realized that Patriot.

[00:34:04] Exists. And a lot of people support their favorite podcasts. I have a Patriot now for chat about Brandon. Let’s talk about brands where I just take people a little deeper into that week’s lessons and how they can apply them to their own brand. So there is value you can offer that people are accustomed or starting to become accustomed to pay for, with things like Patrion.

[00:34:24] And I know that Twitter’s own tip jar feature, which is still new. And in beta some people are using it. Some people have a buy me a coffee link on top and they’re pin tweet. So people are starting to pay creators for things YouTube for years has had a thing where you can literally pay to have your comment highlighted in the chances that the creator will read it on air.

[00:34:49] Audiences have shown that they are willing to pay a little bit for content. The question is can Twitter handle such a change to how people are using it are people who have been using Twitter for all these years for free going to see anything sufficiently valuable to pay for.

[00:35:08] Jeff Sieh: So that’s interesting because so you brought up the YouTube example.

[00:35:13] I like, I go to Nick Nimmons, he does a great chat on Saturday mornings about live video and YouTube and all this stuff, and I will pay for it, what do they call it on YouTube? I can’t even think of it now. Yeah, I’ll do that. Cause it brings it to that top of the feed and he will answer those.

[00:35:29] So I think for that kind of reason, if you have a big following, that makes sense because then, people can pay to get their question answered.

[00:35:38] Christine Gritmon: I can I consider doing it. I could consider doing super follows for my chat right now. It wouldn’t work right now. If I tried to charge people to be part of my chat, they’d say.

[00:35:47] Chat needs participants to exist. So that wouldn’t work out well, but it’s possible after a little while, once people get used to, okay, this is how Twitter works. Now, maybe I could move my chat to be a paid thing. We’ll see.

[00:36:02] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. Doc rock had something interesting a couple of weeks ago when we’re talking about building a community that his community actually said, doc, you gotta do buy me a coffee or, Patrion or something because you’re giving so much we want to give back.

[00:36:15] And so I would say, cause I even turned on the tip jar, which is in Twitter now that you can have. So I would, if you have access to those tools, go ahead and turn them on. Even if you think like you’re not big enough or you’re not having a followers or whatever, if you’re able to do that, turn that on because you just never know, because if you’re providing.

[00:36:33] People do want to give back. So I just think that’s really so I’m Christy and I still think people would probably pay for your Twitter chat. It’s that good.

[00:36:41] Christine Gritmon: I’m hoping. We’ll see, as soon as I have the tip jar option, I’m turning it on. So I’m literally last time I checked my phone, I was five people away from having 10,000 followers.

[00:36:55] Jeff Sieh: And folks go, ah, let’s

[00:36:57] Erik Fisher: bump that up over the top before this is over. Come on.

[00:37:01] Jeff Sieh: So back to this, the super follows thing is Dustin says, yes, his super follows a application has been sitting in limbo for over a month. And he goes also tip jar for the win

[00:37:13] Christine Gritmon: They review all that stuff in a big batch. They just reviewed. And I know we’re talking about ticketed spaces in a bit, but I know that they just approved a whole batch of those the other day. I was part of it. And suddenly I saw a bunch of people popping on my screen with that same with spaces in general. I think they do big batches. And they’ll probably be doing a big batch of super follow approvals soon.

[00:37:35] Jeff Sieh: Yeah. And Justin, they also did Bitcoin yesterday for some iOS user. So he got it. So it’s interesting how all this stuff is starting. I love it when they monetize creators. I think that’s great because we’re the ones who were providing content for their platform.

[00:37:47] So I think the better they do one thing I do want to point out is that at launch Twitter opened up super followers to just a handful of greater. So it’s, there’s still like fewer than a hundred creators in total who have access to super follows. And it didn’t roll out as big as they thought they only saw like $12,400 in gross revenue in this first month.

[00:38:07] But. That’s it slowly rolling out. The interesting thing is you guys want to take note of, is like there’s, it’s like you can have all these different tiers, but let’s say it’s a 4 99 super follows subscription costs. If you’re going through apple that’s one 50 is what apple will take out for an in-app purchase fee.

[00:38:24] And then there’s point 10%. 10 cents. It’s Twitter’s share. And then, you’re only going to take home about $3 and 39 cents. So there

[00:38:32] Christine Gritmon: It’s a Buy Me A Coffee, but it is not buy me a Starbucks coffee, buy me a Dunkin donuts coffee.

[00:38:41] Jeff Sieh: It’s black coffee. And it’s also if you go so high, then they take a bigger cut.

[00:38:45] So anyway, just be aware of that stuff you can apply. And if you go into your app and there’s a thing that says monetization, you can click on that. And that’s how, like I got the chip jar. And that’s where you would also apply. If you have these things that Eric wrote read earlier, what you have to have before you can actually get into it 10,000 followers, 25 tweets, that kind of thing.

[00:39:05] Christine Gritmon: I won’t count on it to pay my mortgage with it’ll maybe keep me in red lipstick.

[00:39:11] Jeff Sieh: That’s what Eric needs. So the second thing we’re going to talk about and monetization is this, what you mentioned earlier is ticketed spaces.

Twitter Announces Ticketed Spaces

[00:39:18] Jeff Sieh: So a Twitter announced not very long ago that ticketed spaces, let me see is a it’s coming it’s.

[00:39:27] Some people have already have it, so you can apply for it right now. Live this live audio feature that, Christine does that Dustin does are going to be allowing to sell this access to ticketed spaces. They first opened in June for the application and you gotta be over 18. You’ve got to host three spaces in the last 30 days and have at least a thousand followers.

[00:39:48] And Twitter said, they’re going to take at least 3% cut of earnings from ticketed spaces. But since the feature is only currently available on the iOS platform, that means once again, that it’s going to be subject to Apple’s 30% in-app purchase fee. So a creator will only create a rolling Sieh 67% of each ticket sale.

[00:40:08] Anyway, and then if it goes up past 50,000, which be happy if he got $50,000 from Twitter, then it’s going to raise the commission rate from 3% to 20%. It’s really interesting how this is different between the other Live audio competitors like Clubhouse. And because those places that you tip speakers or give them badges like on Instagram, but they haven’t able enabled like advanced ticket sales, which is coolest spaces.

[00:40:35] To me, space is, seems like a low friction way for brands to build community and talk directly to their customers and leads. Should this be something that they monetize or would you just okay. Spaces is going to be a place where I communicate. What are your thoughts on that? Christine you’re muted right now for some reason.

[00:40:56] Christine Gritmon: On the one hand, it is content creation. So I understand monetizing it on the other hand again, because it is a shift because it’s something users are used to getting for free. I think that the shift needs to be, if you’re going to charge for a space, you have to be shifting more towards the idea of it being a service.

[00:41:16] So for example, if I charged for a ticketed space, I could probably do a thing where, you know, people who bought tickets get a chance in the hot seat where they can ask me direct questions that I can maybe, give them direct tips on their own personal branding on Twitter, something like that. I think it needs to move more into the arena of being more than a conversation, actually providing some sense of service.

[00:41:44] Jeff Sieh: That’s a great point. Yeah. Do you think it would make sense? I understand, like I shouldn’t go do it with only my amount of followers on Twitter, but if you were a big brand, say like HubSpot or, guy Kawasaki is one of my clients that he’s got kazillion followers. Would it make sense for somebody like that?

[00:42:04] Would you base it on follower count or would it be, would it still be better to have it as a place where you just interact with your fans or your community?

[00:42:13] Christine Gritmon: I never base anything on follower count simply because of. Follower count on any platform is about quality, not quantity. So you could have 300 incredibly engaged followers and have more traction than someone who has 10,000 non engaged followers.

[00:42:28] So I don’t think it would be that, but to your point about someone like HubSpot or someone like guy Kawasaki, I’d say, look at it as the difference between all the free information you can get from watching somebody’s YouTube video versus paying to see them speak. Why do we do that? Why do we pay to see someone speak?

[00:42:47] When, they’re turning up as guests on podcasts and YouTube videos. And there’s a reason for that. And that’s because I feel like people bring it a little bit more. When it’s a speaker situation, you might get to talk to them. I think looking at it in a similar way, why would someone pay.

[00:43:05] To hear you speak or to speak with you. You know what I really wish they do, actually. I don’t think this is part of their plan. I would love it. If they had a hybrid ticketed, non ticketed space where only ticketed attendees could request the mic. I think that would be the perfect hybrid because plenty of people would get the opportunity to listen and to benefit from the space, the way that they are accustomed to doing at this point, it happened very rapidly, but now it’s a part of how we use Twitter, right?

[00:43:35] But only the people who were paying for the privilege can actually have a. In that conversation. I think that hybrid model would make sense, but in the interim, I think that the way that people are going to get people to pay are, first of all, if you have that type of poll, again, it’s less about audience size.

[00:43:51] It’s more about how your audience looks to you. Do they look up to you? Would they pay for your knowledge? Would they pay to come hear you speak and look at it in that way? And also look at it with the unique element of the spaces feature, really give them a voice in the conversation. If they’re paying you and give them some degree of feeling like they’re part of it, feeling like this is a special thing that they’re paying for feeling like it’s almost a service.

[00:44:15] Jeff Sieh: That’s a great point. So by the way Sabrina, let us know Christine. Somebody is at 10,000 now. So you pass the mark and Dustin says he just followed Christine on Twitter from all of his accounts. So we got you past the 10 K. So there you go

[00:44:32] Christine Gritmon: But now I’ll dip below it and above it and below it and above it, like all weekend long,

[00:44:38] Erik Fisher: just gotta push a little. Everybody who’s listening to this after the fact as a recording needs to go over to her account and follow it as well to keep it pushed over that limit.

[00:44:49] Jeff Sieh: Yeah, so we are a minute past the time. You said you needed to leave Christine. So I want to let make sure you have a chance to tell everybody before we’ve got more News, so stick around, but I want to make sure that Christine gets a chance to tell everybody where they can find you and your show.

[00:45:02] That’s coming up in 15.

[00:45:05] Christine Gritmon: Yeah in 15 minutes you can find me I’m on, let’s talk about brand, which is my Friday live stream. The air is at 12 noon Eastern every Friday, where we talked to where I talked to a guest expert for half an hour to just half an hour, not a whole hour about a specific topic of personal branding.

[00:45:20] So today I’m talking to personal stylist, NEPA, CIC, Dar about branding with style. And next week I’m talking to Gaylen, Emmanuelle about brand and internal culture and how they really need to fit together. So we do a whole variety of topics. And again, it is always the same topic as my Tuesday, Twitter chat about brand, which does not have the guest, but is on the same topic.

[00:45:44] So Tuesday we get your brain work. We hopefully educate you a bit on the topic Friday. You get to hear me interview a guest expert on the topic, and if you’re a Patrion member, you also get the benefits of a customized. She basically every week where I give you specific tips from that guest expert interview about how you can specifically apply these learnings to your own brand, as you build it and different Patrion levels have additional things.

[00:46:12] Some of them you can actually talk to being. That always goes up, but at bare minimum, you get my help because I want to build everybody’s brand. I want everybody to shine. You’re all rockstars.

[00:46:23] Jeff Sieh: Awesome. Christine, thank you so much for joining us today. We will continue the show sadly without you, but thank you so much.

[00:46:28] I know you have a show to get ready for it. I know what that means. So we will see you later and we’ll make sure to send everybody over to your show after this. Yep. Bye now. All right, Eric, talk about Twitter blue before we, because we’re still talking about monetization strategy. So tell us what this is.

[00:46:45] It’s not, it’s like only for one country right now, so yeah, but it could come to the United States. So tell us about that. Yeah.

[00:46:52] Erik Fisher: That one country actually, I think it’s two countries, Canada and Australia. Oh

[00:46:59] Jeff Sieh: yeah. It says

[00:47:00] Erik Fisher: Canada and Australia or something there, it, at least it’s listing the prices for this under Canadian and Australian monies.

[00:47:08] I don’t know the term anyways. Twitter, Blue’s a subscription from Twitter and it allows you to unlock features that aren’t available to unsubscribed users. This is like you’ve seen for a very long time where people have said I would pay a monthly fee to Facebook if I never had to see ads on there again.

[00:47:29] Oh yeah. Honestly, I think I might

[00:47:30] Jeff Sieh: be one of them. That was fine. That’s

[00:47:33] Erik Fisher: not the point. This is Twitter and Twitter is offering this idea to retract your tweets before they go live. That’s almost a redo or an undo or an edit button, like long coveted edit button. So there’s like a timer before your tweet goes live for about 30 seconds.

[00:47:52] So it’s oh no, I didn’t mean to send that email, pull it back. There’s bookmarking folders and let you group save tweets to make them easy to find later, we were just talking about bookmarks earlier reader mode that lets you set up threads and turn them into an easy to read a text curated thing to read mashing together, tweets into one page.

[00:48:13] And some are just purely the ability to change the color of the Twitter app, which I’ve seen. So for example, we both use overcast. And one of the, I th I don’t know if that’s one of the features that’s paid or not. I think it originally was, but you can change the icon of the app on your phone. If you’re paid.

[00:48:33] I know there’s some apps out there that do that same thing, and it’s purely aesthetic. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t function in any way, but there you go. Other than like that 32nd undo feature, which of these features. Paying for, I don’t,

[00:48:50] Jeff Sieh: that’s the only one I could think of bookmarks we already have, which I found out we had today.

[00:48:55] And the reader mode, it’s just making it easy to read text. I just don’t think that’s something that I would pay for it now. But the 32nd. Oh my gosh. I should have never sent that tweet to that person. That would be, especially if you spend a lot of times in bars, late at night, I could see that would be a handy dandy thing.

[00:49:13] Erik Fisher: I’m not sure 30 seconds, because this is going to save you in that scenario, but right.

[00:49:19] Jeff Sieh: Delete it the next. But Dustin here, it says he’s he says, am I weird that I’m just dying for a reason to pay Twitter? Even it’s just changed now, Dustin. I know. Cause he, he is a color guy. He actually organizes this whole iPhone, like icons in like colors.

[00:49:32] She’s one of those, he’s one of those kinds of people. But yeah. So, but I could see Dustin paying for that, but anyway he would pay $99. For an edit tweet button. That is hilarious. Okay. So that’s the monetization that we’ve talked about. I want to wrap up the show today with some interesting kind of Twitter updates and experiments.

Twitter Experimenting with New Layout

[00:49:54] Jeff Sieh: And I didn’t, I was going to bring up a picture of this, but this first one is that Twitter is experimenting with a way when I mentioned the beginning that it was a Instagrammy, they are setting up this way to have this more immersive experiment. You may have seen this. I don’t have it yet, but it’s.

[00:50:13] Why edge to edge tweets and the, the the image is edge to edge, like Instagram on iOS. So it’s going to be full width, images and videos. And they want to do this photographers and graphic designers are really excited about this because they got improved cropping controls for its mobile apps.

[00:50:31] And yeah, so these visual artists are really excited about this. But to me, it seems like every platform is trying to be like the other one yeah, Twitter is trying to be like Instagram, Instagram wants to be TikTok. Pinterest wants to be Instagram and TikTok. So what do you think, or do you think this is going to make any difference it’s going to help or hurt Twitter?

[00:50:50] Erik Fisher: I think that, I looked at the example, I saw the picture and I looked at them before and I looked at the after of the same two tweets and that feed. And I thought to myself, I know which one of these is more appealing to me visually. And it was definitely the update. And because it seems like on the way it is.

[00:51:12] That you were cramped and crowded, the tweet itself, the visual, the Media, the medium inside of the tweet. It’s all here’s the, here’s the person here’s like their text it’s all shifted over to the right and then, kind of compacted, whereas yes, it does look like Instagram, but at the same time it feels like there’s the content and everything has room to breathe.

[00:51:38] It’s taking up more of the screen space in a more appealing. Scrolling way. So I’m all for this,

[00:51:45] Jeff Sieh: actually. I think anytime when a, an app makes it look, even if it’s a small thing like this, because it’s really, this is a small thing. But it makes the app feel fresh and updated. It just does, it doesn’t feel dated.

[00:51:59] It does. So I think it’s a good thing for their brand image. I want to know if we’re gonna have to change like Dustin will have to update his, style guide that he sends out every year or we’re gonna have to come up with new images for our, our thumbnails and all that kind of stuff.

[00:52:13] When we start creating graphics and especially as social media managers and marketers, what does this mean for our workflow? So I think it’ll be interesting to see, but that’s the first one. The other one is, this is the one you told me about is this Twitter is hiding old tweets. Explained to me what this is. So it’s a plan it’s experimenting and all this kind of stuff. Yeah.

[00:52:38] Erik Fisher: Yeah. So this is an option to archive old tweets. So they’re not visible to users after a given period of time. So 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, or a whole year options to where you can limit, who can see which tweets you’ve liked.

[00:52:56] Let you remove, let people remove themselves from a conversation on Twitter, man, that actually would come in handy. And you know, where you get quick, keep getting notifications. And you’re like, I’m not even in this, I’m

[00:53:09] Jeff Sieh: just tagged or mentioned or whatever. It’s okay, who’s your favorite podcast people.

[00:53:15] And then you’re in this list for eternity and you keep getting dinged on it. Yeah.

[00:53:19] Erik Fisher: And, and even let people this, one’s good to let people remove followers without having to block. And, or then unblock them to sever that connection. I’m like, no, you’re not my kind of follower. I actually think that’s really cool.

[00:53:34] Because I’ve done that. There’ve been people who have followed me and I’m just like, yeah, I don’t want you to follow me

[00:53:38] Jeff Sieh: anymore. What is soft blocking? They mentioned that in the article. Do you know what soft blocking is?

[00:53:44] Erik Fisher: I think it’s what I just said where it’s I blocked them, but I don’t keep the block.

[00:53:48] I then unblocked them again. I’ve done this, Jeff. I’m not proud of it, but I have

[00:53:53] Jeff Sieh: done it.

[00:53:54] Erik Fisher: I want to re I want that person to never see my tweets anymore, but I don’t want to permanently ban them from ever seeing if they were to come to like my profile and see that they’re blocked, it’s, it’s muting somebody.

[00:54:08] It’s like staying friends on Facebook, but muting them so that you never see them. They still see.

[00:54:15] Jeff Sieh: Okay. Gotcha. So that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. And they said that this is not it’s in the concept phase right now. There’s no timeline for the, these changes like the archive option where you can archive some of your tweets which is really interesting because.

[00:54:31] I’m wondering because so many people get in trouble for old tweets, like directors, tweeted something back like 10 years ago. I’m wondering if they’re allowing this option because of all of that, because I’m sure we all have tweets that we wish we wouldn’t have tweeted. But I just, it’s interesting that they say they don’t know when that’s going to roll out for sure, but it’s going to reportedly plan on starting to let people remove themselves from conversations by the end of the year and let people remove followers starting this month.

[00:54:58] So there you go. You can start doing this and get and clean up your Twitter list right now. So a couple of comments that when we were talking about the kind of Instagram style of the layout for the Twitter may be rolling out and he goes, Dustin goes graphic designer here. I don’t like the edge to edge image on Twitter.

[00:55:15] I’m interesting. Why Dustin? Why don’t you like it? But he does, he likes, he loves having the profile. Oh, this is why he loves having the profile photo to the left and everything else. And didn’t, it makes identifying who made the tweet easier. That’s really cool. And Nancy goes, Hey, Nancy, good to see you here.

[00:55:31] And he says, remember when Twitter hit older tweets. So do you remember that area? I don’t remember that. I don’t remember that either.

[00:55:37] Erik Fisher: Yeah. Yeah. So to Dustin’s point, I can see what he’s saying, but I also don’t like, as I’m scrolling Instagram, which this is very reminiscent of a wonder, oh, whose picture is this?

[00:55:49] Because it’s always like saying who it is right there. So Haley says, but I think there’s room for a compromise between the two, the before and the after.

[00:55:59] Jeff Sieh: Well, Haley says if tweets are hidden, are they still searchable? And if they’re still visible to the account holder, that’s an interesting question.

[00:56:06] I do not know. I think they’re searchable. That would, yeah. You archiving through your own stuff, right? You would assume. Yeah. That’s really interesting. So anyway, that’s really cool. A lot of stuff happened on Twitter, which, somebody, I think Ian or Dustin said it early in the show that Twitter’s kind of having a resurgence of, stuff they’re doing.

[00:56:29] And I like it. I kind of poo-pooed Twitter for awhile, but I get a lot of engagement over there. Now. I, a lot of my content goes out there and does really well. So I’m kind of sold some of these new things coming out. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out, specially the community aspect we talked about at the beginning, some of those community things, keeping people on the planet.

[00:56:49] Giving us control to, manage our communities. Think that is very cool. Yes. Dustin says it is a big week for Twitter, so that is really awesome. Thank you guys so much for showing up the show today. I want to make sure, cause she had about early that you guys go check out her show in two minutes.

[00:57:06] The Christine’s show that you guys go over there and check her out because she does, she did an amazing job today. And with that, I want to make sure we thank our sponsors of the show, the amazing people over at Ecamm. Like I said, they have the amazing replay of Leap Into Live Streaming Bootcamp.

[00:57:24] You can get that for $10 for life@ecam.tv Ford slash replay that’s E cam.tv forge slash replay. Eric, thank you so much for being on the show today. Where can people find out more about the great late. Late. I’m not dead. I’m not dead yet.

[00:57:45] Erik Fisher: No, go over, go check my podcast out. It’s beyond the to-do list.com.

[00:57:50] The most recent episode is with Dorie Clark. And it’s all about her new book, the long game, which is about adding the skill of long-term thinking to achieving your goals. It is a great book. Many of you know who Dory is. It’s awesome. And it’s a great conversation and you should definitely

[00:58:07] Jeff Sieh: check it out.

[00:58:09] Awesome. Thank you guys so much for the comments. Thank you Nancy, for saying it’s great seeing you both together, by the way, we will be back next week with a show. All about live video with our friend Ian Anderson, gray, who was in the comments. He will be joining us as our special guest next week. So make sure you guys check us out.

[00:58:23] You can always find us all the time on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, and Amazon. We’re also a podcast. So make sure you go and do a search for Social Media News. Live on your favorite podcast player and follow us over there. And with that, we’ll see you guys next week. Bye everybody.